# The AI cheating since the economy hotfix is absolutely insane **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PlayStation 4/Xbox One)\ **Created:** [March 1, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141 "2016-03-01T21:45:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Scala](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/scala/32/12470_2.png) [@Scala](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Scala)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/81 "2016-10-15T19:22:58Z")
Use your phone 😉 You can upload from there. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/82 "2016-10-15T22:46:31Z")
> [@wskill](#): > > It was in the active list and second, necroing a thread is always better than creating a new thread. I have gotten that glitch many times. ---
**Author:** ![AboveOmnipotence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aboveomnipotence/32/11742_2.png) [@AboveOmnipotence](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AboveOmnipotence)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/83 "2016-10-16T02:04:13Z")
This is seriously why we NEED online REAL HUMAN Pvs.P. It seriously makes no type of sense that the AI can get these continuing crazy loops 'til the point that we just straight up lose. ---
**Author:** ![wskill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wskill/32/1119_2.png) [@wskill](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/wskill)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 7:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/84 "2016-10-16T07:39:21Z")
you can get these loops aswell but just infinitely rarer, so real human pvp will not eliminate that… and will also create huge strain on servers mind you. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/85 "2016-10-16T14:33:58Z")
Actually, real human PvP is even _more_ likely to loop you to death. As much as people claim the gem drops are biased toward the AI (they’re not), the AI doesn’t know how to effectively use conversion troops and will allow itself to become distracted by skull hits (among other things). If real-time PvP ever became technically feasible, there would need to be provisions to prevent, say, Green Seer / Giant Spider teams from shutting out an opponent with one gigantic, unending loop. ---
**Author:** ![ogunther](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ogunther/32/1464_2.png) [@ogunther](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ogunther)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/86 "2016-10-16T15:21:13Z")
This was a real problem in PvP in their previous games. ---
**Author:** ![AboveOmnipotence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aboveomnipotence/32/11742_2.png) [@AboveOmnipotence](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AboveOmnipotence)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 3:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/87 "2016-10-16T15:36:57Z")
No, the AI WILL loop you to death, disregarding skulls. The AI can get 4-5 gem matches constantly and will NOT be distracted by skulls. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/88 "2016-10-16T16:26:38Z")
That’s most certainly not the case for PC/Mobile; I can’t speak for Console, where I gather there are AI “quirks” (which are allegedly unintended). On PC/Mobile, the AI will invariably select a skull match over a spell cast, even when it would be blatantly foolish to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/89 "2016-10-16T17:57:23Z")
> [@AboveOmnipotence](#): > > No, the AI WILL loop you to death, disregarding skulls. The AI can get 4-5 gem matches constantly and will NOT be distracted by skulls. Everyone is always bellyaching about the console AI. Just wait until the developers finally track down the bug: and we get the boring, incredibly predictable PC AI. There will be posts about reverting it back. ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/90 "2016-10-16T18:21:00Z")
There are things PC should be following console on. AI is the top one, random traitstone drops from pvp was another, ‘daily’ tasks is a turd, and finally you should also be graced with a Robert. ---
**Author:** ![ogunther](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ogunther/32/1464_2.png) [@ogunther](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ogunther)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/91 "2016-10-16T18:29:26Z")
I’d rather AI stays the way it is on PC and we get true PvP for an actual challenge. I have no interest in an AI that loops me to death; that’s boring and frustrating (I’d also rather not have a real opponent do that to me but that’s going to take some real game balancing to prevent). Random traitstones would be awesome; I definitely agree with you there. Daily tasks could be implemented in a positive way but I have no experience with what they’re like on console so I’ll take your word for it and hope they don’t show up on PC/Mobile without being reworked properly. And finally, does that mean you’ll be creating a PC/Mobile account? Or are we getting our very own Robert? The mind boggles! ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/92 "2016-10-16T18:34:57Z")
Console AI does not loop you to death. They make what appear to be occassional random choices. The deciding factor for those moves is unknown but I can only imagine it is better than playing against a robotic AI. No PC account for me. We need a clone machine ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/93 "2016-10-16T18:36:36Z")
> [@Robert](#): > > There are things PC should be following console on. AI is the top one, random traitstone drops from pvp was another, ‘daily’ tasks is a turd, and finally you should also be graced with a Robert. AI to console PC. Yes, every time I watch a Tacit video he mentions setting up the AI a least half a dozen times w/ Skulls. I would love for him to play one day against the console AI. Random Traitstone to PC. There are better ways to handle this. Daily Tasks ‘turd’. I think most people are confused that they are optional on console & NOT available on PC at all. More Robert. Sure ---
**Author:** ![ogunther](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ogunther/32/1464_2.png) [@ogunther](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ogunther)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/94 "2016-10-16T18:36:43Z")
Ah, I was just going off what some other console players said; my mistake. That does sound more interesting. @Sirrian - One clone machine, please. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/95 "2016-10-16T18:46:32Z")
> [@ogunther](#): > > Daily tasks could be implemented in a positive way but I have no experience with what they’re like on console so I’ll take your word for it and hope they don’t show up on PC/Mobile without being reworked properly. Ok. Let me summaries the Tasks problem : 1. The Rewards are currently weak. 2. That alone is bad HOWEVER, in v1 the rewards were almost infinite. How would you like a Task: finish 4 Treasure Hunts for +100 Glory… that you could do again and again endlessly cycling with high other rewards tasks like train a Troop to level 15 +1800 Souls all day long. So going from limitless infinite rewards to ( +20 Gems max per day) makes players sour. ---
**Author:** ![ogunther](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ogunther/32/1464_2.png) [@ogunther](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ogunther)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/96 "2016-10-16T18:47:31Z")
Yeah I could definitely understand that. Seems like maybe the old system was overpowered but the new system is way underpowered. ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/97 "2016-10-16T18:56:23Z")
I would also add that the tasks can be too long and restrictive (e.g. win 12 with troops from a ceryain kingdom), but that is subjective. ---
**Author:** ![AboveOmnipotence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aboveomnipotence/32/11742_2.png) [@AboveOmnipotence](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AboveOmnipotence)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/98 "2016-10-17T00:07:56Z")
Console AI DOES loop to death, nobody here has a reason to lie, especially when a vast lot of us continually experiencing this. You must be a PC player. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 12:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/99 "2016-10-17T00:22:16Z")
You must be new here if you think @Robert is a PC player. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141/100 "2016-10-17T00:39:20Z")
> [@Robert](#): > > I would also add that the tasks can be too long and restrictive (e.g. win 12 with troops from a ceryain kingdom), but that is subjective. 1. What if the rewards for that type of task were based on the Tribute of the Kingdom? 2. So win 12 Battles (with Zaejin) would be with between x4 to x6 tribute collections from said Kingdom 3. Zaejin is not actually in the task list… just a hypothetical. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141.md?page=4) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-ai-cheating-since-the-economy-hotfix-is-absolutely-insane/4141.md?page=6)