# The 2nd GoW Forum Fantasy Series: 2 vs 15 **URL:** \ **Category:** Fantasy Series\ **Created:** [May 11, 2016, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658 "2016-05-11T17:18:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 7:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/21 "2016-05-12T07:15:47Z")
Nicely done. Curious when looking at the stats, what level do those numbers represent? Full level 20 numbers or something else? ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 7:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/22 "2016-05-12T07:16:17Z")
Yes, level 20, fully ascended, assuming zero kingdom bonuses. ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 7:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/23 "2016-05-12T07:18:55Z")
Ok, that’s something we may need to keep in consideration for next time since I’m sure it is easier to max everyone out. For those looking at the stats, remember for this series, troops are capped at their max, unascended levels. So 15-19 for common through legendary respectfully. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 7:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/24 "2016-05-12T07:20:52Z")
Ah, right. Sadly, I did not consider that rule…I’ll see if I can come up with something tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 7:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/25 "2016-05-12T07:23:16Z")
Thank you so much. ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 7:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/26 "2016-05-12T07:23:32Z")
Hey it’s cool and the team lineup makes things much simpler. Plus we did go to 20 for everyone the first time though I think I like it better this way. But yeah you do have that Midas touch. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 7:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/27 "2016-05-12T07:24:37Z")
i am losing 3:1 sniff ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 10:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/28 "2016-05-12T10:15:56Z")
I think it’s better for troop levels to scale with their rarity. Gives more importance to total points pool for building a team ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/29 "2016-05-12T15:39:43Z")
> [@DonBoba](#): > > I think it’s better for troop levels to scale with their rarity. Gives more importance to total points pool for building a team That is the exact reason why there are level caps and points. I carefully analyzed and crunched numbers to come up with with that system and I think it worked extremely well. Since some players were able to have points leftover, I might be instituting (for the future) a process where you can spend a point to ascend a Troop. Takes care of leftover Points, and adds a different level of strategy. ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/30 "2016-05-12T15:47:17Z")
Oh that’s a very nice idea 🙂 And the current system is great, but that was would be an excellent addition 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/31 "2016-05-12T17:02:29Z")
Fixed. Troops should now be at their max level pre-ascension. ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/32 "2016-05-12T17:05:07Z")
You’re awesome @Lyya. Nuff said. ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 6:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/33 "2016-05-12T18:50:26Z")
I think @killerman3333 would win. ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/34 "2016-05-12T20:11:03Z")
> [@Machiknight](#): > > I think @killerman3333 would win. I’m commander Shepherd, and I approve this message. ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/35 "2016-05-12T20:12:41Z")
You’re approving your own message. I think there’s a reason why you can’t “like” your own vote there. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/36 "2016-05-12T20:32:43Z")
> [@Shiratori](#): > > You’re approving your own message. I think there’s a reason why you can’t “like” your own vote there. 😛 I’m commander shepherd, and this is my favorite quote on the citadel. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 8:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/37 "2016-05-13T08:03:20Z")
You have 2 spells at the start to use and then you have to start gaining mana giving me 2 turns up on the mana colecting ergo i would be able to mana block you and starve ou of your spells while making tyri stronger. Your team should lose to mine with your bigger mana costs. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/38 "2016-05-13T17:08:45Z")
Congratulations @Shiratori on the win and to @killerman3333 as well for participating! ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/39 "2016-05-13T23:41:05Z")
And since I haven’t said it yet, thanks to everyone to did vote for us here and for your support. Look forward to having you on my team in the next round. Should be a good match so it’ll be appreciated. See you there. Karasu no kokoro. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658/40 "2016-05-13T23:53:33Z")
Thanks for voting for me. i guess we lost but at least it was fun. See you mates in the next series with a hopefully better line-up. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-2nd-gow-forum-fantasy-series-2-vs-15/6658.md?page=3)