# Thanks for the Frost Archer, but **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [September 8, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492 "2018-09-08T05:33:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/1 "2018-09-08T05:33:10Z")
…there will be another art from (seemingly) the same artist: Arctic Fox ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/b/cb64868eb629c6da8fd8831f99d2d02f6117ff29.png) Could you please find something… well… more foxy? ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 5:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/2 "2018-09-08T05:50:20Z")
I believe the artist used this photo to trace the art but just changed the mouth: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/2/2247d0cdec80a69639ab3ce9e12bc52515ac7589.jpeg) **Source:** [Wrangel Island Arctic Foxes - Minden Pictures](https://www.mindenpictures.com/gallery/preview/1058/2052/1571/arctic-fox-alopex-lagopus-running-wrangel-island-russia-sequence-1-of-2/0_00519727.html) And the spell art: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/8/88451030d84ff971d74ee6b618009be0fa7fa10c.jpeg) **Source:** [The Best Guide to the Arctic Fox in Iceland](https://guidetoiceland.is/nature-info/the-arctic-fox) I’m not sure if there is any problem about tracing art from photos with copyrights, but personally i would prefer completely new and original drawings. ---
**Author:** ![Doordash\_Support](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/doordash_support/32/45654_2.png) [@Doordash\_Support](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doordash_Support)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 6:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/3 "2018-09-08T06:18:04Z")
Pay to win copyright infringement of actual artists! 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 6:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/4 "2018-09-08T06:39:58Z")
Hmmm… that’s not the best art ever… maybe there are reasons… ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 6:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/5 "2018-09-08T06:44:24Z")
It’s still better than Frost Archer imo. But probably from the same artist. ---
**Author:** ![HounganAtLarge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hounganatlarge/32/28697_2.png) [@HounganAtLarge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HounganAtLarge)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 12:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/6 "2018-09-08T12:42:33Z")
So someone put out the worst art on a card ever, and they decided to pay them more & do it again? If you want to throw money away, i have a PO box where you can send money orders. ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/7 "2018-09-08T12:45:30Z")
Completely pointless addition to Stormheims arsenal, like they don’t already have better ways to get blue gems… At least make it great art then, foxes are adorable creatures, it should be easy to make the art adorable too. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/8 "2018-09-08T19:04:42Z")
I’m 100% sure its not the same artist. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/9 "2018-09-09T02:19:05Z")
Trap sprung. Now we know you did the Frost Archer art! ---
**Author:** ![Sheba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sheba/32/45190_2.png) [@Sheba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sheba)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 3:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/10 "2018-09-09T03:15:34Z")
Given how the Shentang Background was copyright infringement at first as well and the devs had it then changed - though the original was a drawn picture, not a traced photo; not sure how much that matters - I suppose there might be hope for the poor creature here that it will be saved by law as well. Not sure who I should ping about this. Maybe just @Saltypatra to have a look at it? ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 4:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/11 "2018-09-09T04:14:30Z")
Hey everyone, we are looking into this. Please be aware that using references is quite common practice with artists. The issue with Shentang was that the kingdom artwork was copied more directly from an existing image, which is why we had the artwork redone. In this instance, the finished artwork is referenced from the image, but not in the same way that the original Shentang kingdom artwork was. As always, thank you for bringing this to our attention. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 4:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/12 "2018-09-09T04:42:53Z")
Spot on! 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Sheba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sheba/32/45190_2.png) [@Sheba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sheba)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 4:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/13 "2018-09-09T04:49:38Z")
I still think that using an image basically 100% as reference is pretty much unprofessional and GoW deserves better than to be represented by something like that. But still, even if that’s okay… there’s literally hundreds of pictures with better references out there. Why not pick one of these much better ones? Would love to see some of those in the game…😏 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/3/63f84e48bf69edf912b45bc06448e87a349637fc.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/3/3375508d1ccfeed390d5b6ab85a941b499e32741.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/2/d29fe337b239ca783d3c2f4a03f7bfe03592322c.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/f/4fd5ef32c35d134a4cee85be21138972bec57fb8.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/8/9857476f6ff19c090432419df0bdfe84a2e1e99b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 5:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/14 "2018-09-09T05:04:37Z")
Omg they are so fluffy I need one. Aaaaaaah. @sheba you’ve made my day. ---
**Author:** ![Sheba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sheba/32/45190_2.png) [@Sheba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sheba)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 5:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/15 "2018-09-09T05:08:46Z")
Glad you like them!😊 They’re such cute guys! Bunny infiltration complete…🐇 ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/16 "2018-09-09T14:59:36Z")
I agree Salty but that was the 50% of Sheba’s post I think the community didn’t care if you commented on. This art isn’t just bad, it’s pretty clearly traced from a reference? What are the odds we can get some placeholder art for now and you guys send feedback to your spec art firm that whichever mechanical Turk took that one did not provide the quality you expect? ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/17 "2018-09-09T16:20:43Z")
> [@Sheba](#): > > I still think that using an image basically 100% as reference is pretty much unprofessional and GoW deserves better than to be represented by something like that. > > But still, even if that’s okay… there’s literally hundreds of pictures with better references out there. > Why not pick one of these much better ones? Would love to see some of those in the game…😏 `01010000 01101111 01101001 01101110 01110100 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01101111 01110101 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01100101 01111000 01100001 01100011 01110100 00100000 01110000 01101000 01101111 01110100 01101111 01100111 01110010 01100001 01110000 01101000 01111001 00100000 01110100 01110010 01100001 01100011 01100101 01100100 00100000 01100100 01101001 01100100 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01110010 01100001 01101001 01110011 01100101 01100100 00100000 01100001 01101110 01111001 00100000 01110011 01110101 01110011 01110000 01101001 01100011 01101001 01101111 01101110 01110011 00100000 01100001 01100010 01101111 01110101 01110100 00100000 01100010 01100101 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01100001 01101110 00100000 01000001 00101110 01001001 00100000 01100011 01100001 01110000 01100001 01100010 01101100 01100101 00100000 01101111 01100110 00100000 01100001 01100011 01100011 01100101 01110011 01110011 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01100001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01100100 01100001 01110100 01100001 01100010 01100001 01110011 01100101 01110011 00100000 01110111 01101001 01110100 01101000 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101111 01110101 01110011 01100001 01101110 01100100 01110011 00100000 01101111 01100110 00100000 01110000 01101001 01100011 01110100 01110101 01110010 01100101 01110011 00100000 01100001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01101111 01110110 01100101 01110010 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01101001 01101110 01110100 01100101 01110010 01101110 01100101 01110100 00101110 00100000 01000001 01100011 01100011 01100101 01110000 01110100 01100001 01100010 01101100 01100101 00100000 01101111 01110101 01110100 01100011 01101111 01101101 01100101 00101110 00100000 01010011 01100011 01101000 01100101 01100100 01110101 01101100 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01100111 01101100 01101111 01100010 01100001 01101100 00100000 01110011 01110111 01100101 01100101 01110000 00100000 01100110 01101111 01110010 00100000 01101110 01100101 01110111 00100000 01110000 01101001 01100011 01110100 01110101 01110010 01100101 01110011 00100000 01101111 01100110 00100000 01100110 01101111 01111000 01100101 01110011 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01101110 01100101 01111000 01110100 00100000 00110001 00110000 00110010 00110100 00100000 01101101 01101001 01101110 01110101 01110100 01100101 01110011 00101110 00100000 00110010 00110000 00100101 00100000 01101111 01100110 00100000 01101101 01100101 01101101 01101111 01110010 01111001 00100000 01100001 01101100 01101100 01101111 01100011 01100001 01110100 01100101 01100100 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01110010 01100101 01110011 01110101 01101101 01100101 00100000 01101111 01100010 01110011 01100101 01110010 01110110 01100001 01110100 01101001 01101111 01101110 00100000 01100001 01101110 01100100 00100000 01101001 01101110 01110100 01100101 01110010 01100001 01100011 01110100 01101001 01101111 01101110 00100000 01110111 01101001 01110100 01101000 00100000 01110011 01110101 01100010 01101010 01100101 01100011 01110100 01110011 00101110` Hey Sheba, one of those foxes is… quite different… ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/18 "2018-09-09T16:30:50Z")
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**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/19 "2018-09-09T16:34:40Z")
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**Author:** ![TimeKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/timeknight/32/50221_2.png) [@TimeKnight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TimeKnight)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thanks-for-the-frost-archer-but/45492/20 "2018-09-09T17:04:05Z")
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