# Thank goodness they nerfed those Kerberos/Spider/Guardian teams **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [June 23, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thank-goodness-they-nerfed-those-kerberos-spider-guardian-teams/26177 "2017-06-23T02:41:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ariel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ariel/32/17124_2.png) [@Ariel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ariel)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thank-goodness-they-nerfed-those-kerberos-spider-guardian-teams/26177/1 "2017-06-23T02:41:17Z")
I’d like to point out that in “fixing” Devour, they’ve made that team Devour-proof as a side-effect. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/2/02dab68d06f0c6305099911ea61d9d8a5a8b3b48.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thank-goodness-they-nerfed-those-kerberos-spider-guardian-teams/26177/2 "2017-06-23T02:43:49Z")
You talking about barrier? any x4 gems with kraken will remove it in no time ---
**Author:** ![Luc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/luc/32/26817_2.png) [@Luc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Luc)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 2:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thank-goodness-they-nerfed-those-kerberos-spider-guardian-teams/26177/3 "2017-06-23T02:50:31Z")
Unfortunately not everyone has a fully traited Kraken. I guess this is where Artema’s dispel really becomes handy, if she manages to get an extra turn, that is. ---
**Author:** ![jeno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeno/32/20235_2.png) [@jeno](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jeno)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thank-goodness-they-nerfed-those-kerberos-spider-guardian-teams/26177/4 "2017-06-23T02:52:09Z")
i do not understand. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thank-goodness-they-nerfed-those-kerberos-spider-guardian-teams/26177/5 "2017-06-23T02:53:27Z")
> [@jeno](#): > > i do not understand. barrier is now immune against devour ---
**Author:** ![jeno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeno/32/20235_2.png) [@jeno](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jeno)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thank-goodness-they-nerfed-those-kerberos-spider-guardian-teams/26177/6 "2017-06-23T02:54:59Z")
yea, that part i understand. how does it make that team devour-proof? ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 2:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thank-goodness-they-nerfed-those-kerberos-spider-guardian-teams/26177/7 "2017-06-23T02:57:12Z")
cause they can get barrier with forest guardian, it’s not devour proof you just need a troop who hit everyone to remove it and bye bye barrier. krystanex or dragon soul are perfect for this ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thank-goodness-they-nerfed-those-kerberos-spider-guardian-teams/26177/8 "2017-06-23T03:09:01Z")
Or prevent FG from casting in the first place, which admittedly isn’t trivial since preventing the other three from casting is much more important. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 6:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thank-goodness-they-nerfed-those-kerberos-spider-guardian-teams/26177/9 "2017-06-23T06:53:40Z")
I don’t consider this a problem. Plenty of ways to kill those Kerbies without relying on Devour. I usually find best to either run a loop team or employ mana drain. Khorvash works well.