# Team scores differ - "for me" and "for others" **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [June 5, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572 "2018-06-05T19:34:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/1 "2018-06-05T19:34:20Z")
I’ve just looked at my own defense team as if I was another player: through the guild I opened own profile and clicked “Fight” (or just open own profile in the top left corner over the world map and click “Fight”). I saw my defense team, but with another team score! 9065 - instead of 10045 I see when I open “Defenders” tab. For other teams there were other numbers: 9005 and 10105, for example. I’m curious now, what are these scores and why they are calculated differently? (Not sure it’s a bug, so I didn’t put this topic into “Reports”.) ---
**Author:** ![Icarium81](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/icarium81/32/37141_2.png) [@Icarium81](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Icarium81)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/2 "2018-06-05T19:50:40Z")
They have different star levels for kingdoms so not exactly the same strength ---
**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/3 "2018-06-05T19:57:13Z")
Do you want to say that kingdom bonuses I see for troops (“Troops” - “Bonuses” tab) are wrong? And that some other bonuses are applied while in defense? ---
**Author:** ![Icarium81](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/icarium81/32/37141_2.png) [@Icarium81](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Icarium81)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/4 "2018-06-05T20:21:14Z")
You said you see your same team… there’s no saying the teams stats are identical. A rank 10 could have your same cards… doesn’t make said cards the same strength. ---
**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/5 "2018-06-05T20:40:04Z")
> [@Icarium81](#): > > there’s no saying the teams stats are identical. Why that? Why have 2 different formulas instead of one? ---
**Author:** ![Icarium81](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/icarium81/32/37141_2.png) [@Icarium81](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Icarium81)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/6 "2018-06-05T20:42:55Z")
What are you not understanding?? You at rank 1k with kingdoms giving basically +30 across the board and a level 10 getting MAYBE +1 to ONE stat … Your two "identical teams are NOT going to be the same strength, despite being “the same cards” ---
**Author:** ![Casper1875](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/casper1875/32/21441_2.png) [@Casper1875](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Casper1875)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/7 "2018-06-05T20:44:59Z")
You can have the same team as a guild member, but if one of you has all your kingdoms levelled up with full stars (& now pet bonus too) then they will have different power scores which is what the number at the top is. ---
**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/8 "2018-06-05T20:45:00Z")
I understand nothing of your writings. And I think it’s your problem that you cannot write clearly. ---
**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/9 "2018-06-05T20:46:37Z")
I am that guild member, I have the same bonuses from kingdoms and pets. Why I see different numbers for all identical configurations? ---
**Author:** ![Casper1875](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/casper1875/32/21441_2.png) [@Casper1875](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Casper1875)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/10 "2018-06-05T20:50:14Z")
It could be down to something as simple as one of your cards not being mythic while theirs is etc. The things that affect the score are quite wide ranging, off the top of my head there’s: Player level Troop ascension & level Traits Kingdom levels Kingdom stars Pet ascension & level If any one of those is different then the scores will be too ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/11 "2018-06-05T20:50:22Z")
This is what Nulings is talking about: Let’s say I set this team as defense. In my troop menu and on the PVP defense screen, this is the team score: 10,257. ![fromTroopMenu](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/8/28ac416d71c3a0b8ec86e75c8658f0592145b7ec.PNG) However, if you click to fight me from my profile, you see a different team score: 9,917 ![whatOthersSee](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/5/75d6145360ccdb30e210a35cf8d3e302fe38e11e.PNG) FYI: This has been the case for a long time. I haven’t seen a dev state why this is the case. ---
**Author:** ![Casper1875](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/casper1875/32/21441_2.png) [@Casper1875](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Casper1875)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/12 "2018-06-05T20:52:19Z")
Iirc your profile team doesn’t benefit from guild statues as it’s primarily used for testing? Which is also why you don’t get any rewards for beating it… ---
**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/13 "2018-06-05T20:52:38Z")
Exactly so, yes, thank you. I could not find this problem using forum search though. ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/14 "2018-06-05T20:53:31Z")
> [@Nullings](#): > > Exactly so, yes, thank you. I could not find this problem using forum search though. Threads have come up about it now and then. An official answer has never been given as far as I know. ---
**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/15 "2018-06-05T20:58:38Z")
An interesting thought. But if only guild statues affected this difference, then it should be identical for all cases, shouldn’t it? But differences between scores are not equal. As I mentioned above, for one team it’s 10045 - 9065 = 980, while for another team it’s 10105 - 9005 = 1100. ---
**Author:** ![Casper1875](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/casper1875/32/21441_2.png) [@Casper1875](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Casper1875)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/16 "2018-06-05T21:09:30Z")
Not all the guild statues are equal power though are they? I know ours differ… ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 9:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/17 "2018-06-05T21:31:03Z")
Because if our defense teams had higher team scores we’d be getting more gold in pvp…“rolls eyes at devs” ---
**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/18 "2018-06-05T22:03:49Z")
That’s not an answer to my question. Why there are 2 formulas for 1 thing? ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 10:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/19 "2018-06-05T22:23:41Z")
When you view a team anywhere but defense, you get the “Unity” score calc, which gives score for 5 star kingdoms but _not_ completed guild tasks. When you view them on defense, they use the old Adobe (presumably legacy server-side) score calcs, which gives score for completed guild tasks but _not_ five star kingdoms. I explained what is happening in greater detail elsewhere a couple times. To my knowledge, there has never been an official response as to _why_ there are _still_ two different scores calcs (at this point, it is assumed to be a bug or at least a holdover from legacy code), and it is still unknown if gold calcs and PvP points compare your Unity Global Score Bonus with the Adobe team scores or not. ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-scores-differ-for-me-and-for-others/40572/20 "2018-06-05T22:46:08Z")
Fixing it would be of benefit to players so don’t hold your breath on a fix. If it was the other way around with higher defense and lower attack scores…fixed tomorrow.