# T.M.N.D.T - PC/Mobile Event **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [October 1, 2017, 11:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068 "2017-10-01T23:05:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 6:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068/41 "2017-10-02T06:25:58Z")
> [@turintuor](#): > > Looking forward for a Legendary/Mythic with a “Submerge a random ally on 4+matches” 🙂 . Here, let me just dunk you underwater for a bit - it’ll be fun, I promise! ---
**Author:** ![Zelarith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelarith/32/1642_2.png) [@Zelarith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelarith)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 6:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068/42 "2017-10-02T06:35:44Z")
Did no one mentionned the fact that these two new troops are from different kingdoms? It’s a first ! Edit : note for self : I need to put my glasses on before speaking. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 6:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068/43 "2017-10-02T06:41:31Z")
> [@Shimrra](#): > > Here, let me just dunk you underwater for a bit You didn’t even buy me dinner first! ---
**Author:** ![esslee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esslee/32/103072_2.png) [@esslee](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/esslee)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 6:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068/44 "2017-10-02T06:53:07Z")
? They both seem to have the same kingdom crest in the pictures. ---
**Author:** ![Zelarith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelarith/32/1642_2.png) [@Zelarith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelarith)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 7:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068/45 "2017-10-02T07:00:38Z")
Oh, right, my bad. Didn’t zoom in on the turtle and I thought I had seen the Silverglade crest ☹ ---
**Author:** ![mraider94](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mraider94/32/21939_2.png) [@mraider94](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mraider94)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 7:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068/46 "2017-10-02T07:56:59Z")
The submerged graphics is quite bad. ---
**Author:** ![Maxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maxx/32/50891_2.png) [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 9:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068/47 "2017-10-02T09:29:28Z")
This week is going to suck ![3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/4/240c4d16fdbe5b910178b49b962a8489eac91ebb.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 9:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068/48 "2017-10-02T09:30:02Z")
> [@Maxx](#): > > This week is going to suck 4x Kraken, go 😛 ---
**Author:** ![LastGrim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lastgrim/32/31495_2.png) [@LastGrim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LastGrim)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 9:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068/49 "2017-10-02T09:33:50Z")
No stealthy, no extra turn, no charm enemy, no swift… it’s look like balanced cards! ---
**Author:** ![sidewinDr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@sidewinDr](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sidewinDr)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068/50 "2017-10-02T10:17:42Z")
It’s worthy to note that among meta troops I’ve encountered thus far, Krystenax and Draakulis will miss completely on a Submerged troop. Psion will not deal damage but will still drain mana. Mab is unaffected. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068/51 "2017-10-02T14:37:08Z")
> [@Good counters for the Dwarven Door continuous defense loop?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-counters-for-the-dwarven-door-continuous-defense-loop/28154/9): > > ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/8/e86179e0a0be89a71a8eff98d29f14e970b992ac.jpg) Took me forever to relocate that 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Venar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venar/32/36634_2.png) [@Venar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Venar)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068/52 "2017-10-02T15:47:00Z")
The Kraken needs to go. This game is just not fun anymore. That troop is not enjoyable x 1000. The trolls makes them even worst . (Btw, weren’t the trolls on a trial run to be reassessed? How about increasing that mana cost devs, maybe delay the “game over” switch) ---
**Author:** ![Whiskeyjack](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whiskeyjack/32/65850_2.png) [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068/53 "2017-10-02T16:01:26Z")
I hope this doesn’t sound overly negative but it’s really disappointing that the help text for submerge is so inaccurate. There are so many inaccurate descriptions already in the game (like inconsistencies between “on skull damage” meaning either ‘on skull damage’ or ‘when skulls are matched’) that you really shouldn’t be introducing new ones. It says “avoid all damage effects targeting the whole team”. Aside from the fact that it doesn’t protect against damage from mab’s mana burn or krakens tentacles (“mana burn **all enemies** ” and “Deal 3 damage to **all enemies** ”), it also doesn’t describe how and when it wears off. Plus I don’t think “damage effects” has ever been used before to describe anything in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068/54 "2017-10-02T17:02:15Z")
I think it’s supposed to be shorthand for “spell effects that cause damage,” since it doesn’t protect against non-spell effects like Tentacles or Many Heads. I agree that the game does a really poor job explaining its mechanics, so we end up having to clear up misconceptions here on the forums as a matter of routine. (Speaking of which: Many Heads: All enemies take 3 damage when they deal Skull damage. Really? When “they deal Skull damage?” Naively, I’d assume only the attacking troop is affected.) ---
**Author:** ![Whiskeyjack](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whiskeyjack/32/65850_2.png) [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068/55 "2017-10-02T18:37:42Z")
> [@Lyya](#): > > (Speaking of which: > > Many Heads: All enemies take 3 damage when they deal Skull damage. > > Really? When “they deal Skull damage?” Naively, I’d assume only the attacking troop is affected.) When I first saw that trait, I didn’t think the skull damage had to be dealt to Hydra - I thought it would be like Maw’s trait. But yeah, lots of small tweaks would really help new players ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068/56 "2017-10-02T20:10:48Z")
> [@Sirrian](#): > > …somewhere back many centuries ago, a very bored Dragon saw a rather sizeable turtle and became unusually curious about… stuff. > [@Shimrra](#): > > Here, let me just dunk you underwater for a bit - it’ll be fun, I promise! > [@Lyya](#): > > You didn’t even buy me dinner first! 🤨 It’s starting to look like a weird fanfiction… [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/t-m-n-d-t-pc-mobile-event/31068.md?page=2)