# Summoned troops traits **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [July 19, 2016, 9:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/summoned-troops-traits/9846 "2016-07-19T09:56:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rozik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/919ad9/32.png) [@Rozik](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rozik)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 9:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/summoned-troops-traits/9846/1 "2016-07-19T09:56:18Z")
Hello everybody! Could somebody explain in few words which traits of summoned troop are trigged when this troop is summoned? I’m thinking about Giant Spider vs Thrall particularly, but if somebody knows more about rest of units that can be summoned it could be useful for other players too 🙂 Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 10:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/summoned-troops-traits/9846/2 "2016-07-19T10:46:50Z")
The summoned troop is a copy of that troop from your collection (but limited by the magic stat of the summoner). So for example, if you have a Giant Spider that can summon a lvl15 Spiderling, and your collection’s Spiderling is lvl20 with full traits, you summon a lvl15 Spiderling with full traits. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 11:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/summoned-troops-traits/9846/3 "2016-07-19T11:03:30Z")
> [@Rozik](#): > > Could somebody explain in few words which traits of summoned troop are triggered when this troop is summoned? If a trait triggers at the start of game then that trait is useless on a summoned troop. If a trait activates on gem matches or at the start of turn then that trait it is useful of a summoned troop If a trait is passive and only works when the troop is targeted by spell ability or attack then that trait is good. Giant spider\>Thrall. ---
**Author:** ![Rozik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/919ad9/32.png) [@Rozik](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rozik)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 11:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/summoned-troops-traits/9846/4 "2016-07-19T11:12:04Z")
> [@killerman3333](#): > > If a trait triggers at the start of game then that trait is useless on a summoned troop. So two first traits of Thrall are useless, if i understand correctly. Thanks killerman3333, now it’s clear 😉 ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 11:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/summoned-troops-traits/9846/5 "2016-07-19T11:18:11Z")
> [@Rozik](#): > > So two first traits of Thrall are useless, if i understand correctly. Thanks killerman3333, now it’s clear 😉 Omg i did not even know he had two traits that activate on start of game. If he is summoned then those two traits to my knowledge do not work. ---
**Author:** ![Hairlock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hairlock/32/15177_2.png) [@Hairlock](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hairlock)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/summoned-troops-traits/9846/6 "2016-10-31T00:57:20Z")
This is not the case (or at least no longer appears to be). I have a Ghoul with two unlocked traits. I just used a Summoner which brought a summoned Ghoul into battle, and he does not have any unlocked traits. ---
**Author:** ![Kharybdys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kharybdys/32/2023_2.png) [@Kharybdys](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kharybdys)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/summoned-troops-traits/9846/7 "2016-10-31T16:20:09Z")
Console? There is a known bug there with summoned troops not getting their traits. Not even sure if there isn’t the same bug on PC/Mobile. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 12:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/summoned-troops-traits/9846/8 "2016-11-01T00:16:40Z")
Did you guys get the summoner update? Your summoned troops should have traits, if you gave your units traits outside of battle. ---
**Author:** ![Hairlock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hairlock/32/15177_2.png) [@Hairlock](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hairlock)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/summoned-troops-traits/9846/9 "2016-11-03T23:47:53Z")
I’m on the PS4 and a newer player. I’m not sure if it’s a bug or we never got the summoner update. I would love for another console player who’s noticed the same thing to chime in. I’m benching the Orc squad I built and will not be traiting the Spider Swarm until it’s fixed, which makes me sad. 😢