# Strange +1 defense wins **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [February 14, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076 "2017-02-14T18:50:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/1 "2017-02-14T18:50:14Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/9/c95a5e452386524297ed0b8244384f361f68de12.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/7/77b6758b2526dc9617cfc9f90a60f91d4689ee8e.jpg) What is going on? Why do this happens sometimes? ---
**Author:** ![Mgla](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mgla/32/18380_2.png) [@Mgla](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mgla)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 6:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/2 "2017-02-14T18:52:41Z")
What exactly happened? Your defense lost to a guy with an iffy name? ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/3 "2017-02-14T18:56:29Z")
Excusez-moi ? ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/4 "2017-02-14T18:56:49Z")
Idk whats happenin but i know techn9neee hes cool lol ---
**Author:** ![Zelarith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelarith/32/1642_2.png) [@Zelarith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelarith)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 6:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/6 "2017-02-14T18:57:40Z")
You are all missing Eika’s point being that he only gets “+1” for every defense win ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/7 "2017-02-14T18:58:28Z")
I dont hablas the espan-yol ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/8 "2017-02-14T18:58:56Z")
I just find it a little strange to see the same person invading me so rapidly, and I have like the worst defense team there is, I should not have won in first place. So most probably a bug? ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/9 "2017-02-14T18:59:31Z")
I didnt miss it hence the “idk whats happenin” part😎 ---
**Author:** ![Zelarith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelarith/32/1642_2.png) [@Zelarith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelarith)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/10 "2017-02-14T19:00:19Z")
Got me confused with the other part ^^’ ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/11 "2017-02-14T19:00:44Z")
Yeah that happens to me too from time to time… Its weird to be sure ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/12 "2017-02-14T19:01:16Z")
Yeah just very strange, happens here from time to time also. Possibly a strange bug? ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/13 "2017-02-14T19:01:47Z")
@Zelarith my bad… I wuz just being silly😀 ---
**Author:** ![Macawi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/macawi/32/21289_2.png) [@Macawi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Macawi)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/14 "2017-02-14T19:04:09Z")
@Eika, there is another thread where this has been happening to others. > [@Defense victories not counted as invade losses?](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/defense-victories-not-counted-as-invade-losses/19780): > > What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened? I got a notification that my defense team won. Three times, actually! I didn’t think my team was all that menacing, so I went to look at who could possibly have lost to my cupcake squad. It was the same person all three times. I checked their PVP stats to see if they’re a new player, and it turns out that they have had no invade losses this week. This seems improbable, given my battle log. What are the steps to make it happen again… Nothing concrete from a dev to why it’s happening tho. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/15 "2017-02-14T19:24:51Z")
[https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/optimized/3X/4/d/4dea50dc579ec683c8ef398fe7920a5a0fa902b0\_1\_690x402.jpg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/optimized/3X/4/d/4dea50dc579ec683c8ef398fe7920a5a0fa902b0_1_690x402.jpg) And this is a SS from a friend who wanted to stay anonym. Very strange bug. ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/16 "2017-02-14T19:27:44Z")
> [@Eika](#): > > I just find it a little strange to see the same person invading me so rapidly, and I have like the worst defense team there is, I should not have won in first place. So most probably a bug? > [@Macawi](#): > > @Eika, there is another thread where this has been happening to others. I posted in the other thread that I had the same thing happen to me when I switched to a joke defence team. When I saw 2 level 1000+ players seemingly unable to beat it, and me getting only 1 point each time they lost, I knew something was wrong. As Macawi says, no updates from a dev on this. In my case, it seemed to have something to do with at least one of the other players doing casual PVP and yet somehow still interacting with my battle log (although they never actually battled me). It really undermines my confidence in my defence stats, but is otherwise inconsequential. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/17 "2017-02-14T19:29:13Z")
I still hope we will get an answer about this, and why this is happening. I do not like to swim in too much of speculations… ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 12:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/18 "2017-02-15T00:58:48Z")
Unlike the mathmath person invading me (and others), I _know_ @en9nhcet occasionally visits the forums. Hopefully they can offer some additional insight. ---
**Author:** ![Scala](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/scala/32/12470_2.png) [@Scala](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Scala)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 1:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/19 "2017-02-15T01:20:40Z")
I am 99% sure what is happening is casual invades appear on defenders as wins for 1 point. Easy 1 trophy, meh gold, but you probably have 1 troop defence, meaning it’s super fast. Also, only 50 gold to refresh for a new opponent. The devs have not responded about this “feature”. But it’s \_Tech\_nically legit ^^ Also had other people invade multiple times in a row. ---
**Author:** ![XLS78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b2d939/32.png) [@XLS78](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/XLS78)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 1:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/20 "2017-02-15T01:25:05Z")
Intrim and Intrim II were just looking at this very issue because we kept seeing the +1 also from random opponents, and often repeatedly. We think it may be related to casual PVP. When Player A beats Player B in casual PVP, Player B often (always?) gets a 1-point ranked defense win. We would love to see if others can corroborate this too, so that it can be nailed down and fixed if it’s not intended. Edit: Beaten by Scala 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076/21 "2017-02-15T02:45:59Z")
If you’re associated with Intrim II, we can test this. I currently have tojop on my list of possible casual opponents. If you tell me when they’re typically active, I will try to do a casual invade during that time period. This doesn’t resolve the issue of multiple such “victories” in less than one minute, though. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076.md?page=2)