# Starting petition against trick or treat abuse! **URL:** \ **Category:** Spoilers\ **Created:** [October 22, 2016, 11:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/starting-petition-against-trick-or-treat-abuse/14175 "2016-10-22T11:50:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 13
**Author:** ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/starting-petition-against-trick-or-treat-abuse/14175/13 "2016-10-22T17:52:07Z")
> [@Sirrian](#): > > But looking back at the meta, troops with devour chance never took over, so I doubt that troops with transform chance ever will. Please see: > [@R.I.P. Maw meta. The new meta is Manticore/Khorvash?](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/r-i-p-maw-meta-the-new-meta-is-manticore-khorvash/11137): > > I’ve been playing PVP quite a bit this week (164 battles so far), and it seems that the Maw meta is definately dead/dying. Last week at least 65-70% of the hard option opponents in PVP contained at least one Maw, but now that number has been reduced to maybe 25%. The new kings of PVP appear to be Manticore and Emperor Khorvash. Usually used both in the same team (around 50-60% of the time in the hardest option in PVP). Now change is good, 'cause the Maw meta was getting old, but Manticore/Khorv… > [@I am tired of being Maw'ed](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-am-tired-of-being-mawed/9282): > > My level 155 phone alt was offered a ranked match against a level 1000 fully-traited Maw team. How fair is that? She won the match, but only because Maw didn’t get a chance to strike. It has become quiet tedious. Practically everyone else in the meta-game is going on and on about the mythics, and none of them faze me in the slightest. I have yet to lose a single match to a team with Famine, and only lost one match to a War team due to sleepy play. Every single loss is Maw-this and Maw-that, ofte… > [@Farewell, Old Friend... (The Great Maw-morial)](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/farewell-old-friend-the-great-maw-morial/10554): > > Pay your respects. > [@Yes I know another maw thread](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/yes-i-know-another-maw-thread/10422): > > First of all I have 4 mythic Maw’s fully traited so I’m not complaining about maw for not having it. With the PvP leaderboard more competitive then ever and showing big numbers it is crucial to invade consistently and fast (At least 2 mins or less avg - tested on large scale) to compete with the top dogs. What about counters to maw that was introduced in the last patch ? Sure you can make a team involving stun/impervious and what not but it will NOT be consistent and fast against EVERY defens… > [@Annaerith](#): > > edit: well i hope the chance is low enough then ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/d/d741ff302332626c07053e2d2df95e6327cbbd04.gif) --- _[View the full topic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/starting-petition-against-trick-or-treat-abuse/14175)._