# \[SPOILERS\] NEW Kingdom (11.11) **URL:** \ **Category:** Spoilers\ **Created:** [October 30, 2016, 11:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578 "2016-10-30T11:37:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![en9nhcet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/en9nhcet/32/1673_2.png) [@en9nhcet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/en9nhcet)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 7:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/63 "2016-10-31T07:03:45Z")
release him! [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/1/31ec269d2f035134be04b323bc98f8da136d627d.jpeg "SMITE - Poolseidon Limited Edition Skin") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMWIlnvA2j0) ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 7:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/64 "2016-10-31T07:27:13Z")
That Common as drafted looks OP for the end game - 3x shots with Magic scaling for only that mana cost…? @Shimrra? ---
**Author:** ![Personette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/personette/32/3845_2.png) [@Personette](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Personette)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 10:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/65 "2016-10-31T10:22:43Z")
What are the colors for turkar & sunsail? ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 12:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/66 "2016-10-31T12:53:38Z")
> [@Jainus](#): > > That Common as drafted looks OP for the end game - 3x shots with Magic scaling for only that mana cost…? @Shimrra? They try and use a term “power creep” in gaming, but all it is really is not checking your past work when you do a new job. They train that out of you in accounting ---
**Author:** ![nguyenquoctrong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ba8739/32.png) [@nguyenquoctrong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/nguyenquoctrong)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 1:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/67 "2016-10-31T13:26:07Z")
what’s mana color of Tuskar + Sunsail? ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 2:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/68 "2016-10-31T14:20:10Z")
Tuskar is Green/Brown, Sunsail is Green. ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/69 "2016-10-31T14:33:52Z")
Spoilers ahead I forgot how to hide it again -.- By connecting this and the colors you said in spoiler section I deducted this kingdom will be event kingdom next week. Am I right? ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/70 "2016-10-31T14:55:45Z")
Nope, pirate is predicted in 2 weeks. Next should be Pridelands. (schedule subject to change, yada yada) ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/71 "2016-10-31T14:59:33Z")
Oh nevermind tuskar and sunsail are not from pirate kingdom. ---
**Author:** ![efh313](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/efh313/32/34349_2.png) [@efh313](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/efh313)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/72 "2016-10-31T16:53:17Z")
I apologize if this has already been mentioned TL;DR but I love the concept of Water Heart, third trait- gives 1 life for every blue ally but compared to Water Spirit, third trait- give 1 magic for every blue ally I think that Water Heart needs a slight buff, even just to 2, but something. The value of Magic over Life is substantial enough to warrant it, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/73 "2016-10-31T17:11:09Z")
Targets randomly, gives up the turn to do so and no board mod. Even 17x3 for 8 mana seems pretty medicore end-game wise when you have to give up the turn. During the early midgame period when everyone has their 5\* magic but no other 5\*s, it looks good for a common. At the endgame, it might be the _third_ best _brown common_ in the game. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/74 "2016-10-31T17:26:02Z")
> [@efh313](#): > > I apologize if this has already been mentioned TL;DR > > but I love the concept of Water Heart, third trait- gives 1 life for every blue ally > > but compared to Water Spirit, third trait- give 1 magic for every blue ally > > I think that Water Heart needs a slight buff, even just to 2, but something. The value of Magic over Life is substantial enough to warrant it, IMHO. This makes sense. However using the formula the Devs use, it should be +4 1 Magic = 2 Attack = 4 Life/Armor ---
**Author:** ![efh313](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/efh313/32/34349_2.png) [@efh313](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/efh313)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/75 "2016-10-31T17:28:24Z")
> [@TaliaParks](#): > > However using the formula the Devs use, it should be +4 > > 1 Magic = 2 Attack = 4 Life/Armor Thanks for the clarification! I think +4 life is appropriate, now it feels like a solid third trait! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Esoxnepa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esoxnepa/32/1837_2.png) [@Esoxnepa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esoxnepa)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/76 "2016-10-31T17:38:48Z")
I think the traits they design with have different weights. So they don’t consider Heart = Spirit, but assign based on other aspects of the troop. There are a bunch of traits I wish would get buffed. Like Grudge. Grudge should be something you think about before you spam cast a bunch of spell, vs something you can mostly ignore. ---
**Author:** ![Velkyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/velkyn/32/10170_2.png) [@Velkyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Velkyn)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/77 "2016-10-31T19:32:10Z")
> [@TaliaParks](#): > > 1 Magic = 2 Attack = 4 Life/Armor Not really a spoiler, but where does this come from? (Not doubting you, just curious if the devs have said anything else about rough stat equivalents/weights!) ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/78 "2016-10-31T19:47:52Z")
Comparing to Hobgoblin… lets say the extra turn compensates for a rarity tier or two, we have one targeted and one random vs three random. All scaling with magic. Although Commons are also only charging from one color of mana. … Still seems high. The three targets makes it incredibly likely you’ll hit the one you really want to hit. If it was half-scaling it would be useless… I think it just needs to cost a bit more? Also @Jainus Kraken’s trait. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 8:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/79 "2016-10-31T20:31:31Z")
> [@Velkyn](#): > > > [@TaliaParks](#): > > > > 1 Magic = 2 Attack = 4 Life/Armor > > Not really a spoiler, but where does this come from? (Not doubting you, just curious if the devs have said anything else about rough stat equivalents/weights!) This is pretty standard across Team Bonuses and I know the Devs have stated this before. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/80 "2016-10-31T20:42:21Z")
Confirmed, this is how team bonuses, perks, etc are weighted - and is how the Devs compute reference values. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/81 "2016-11-01T21:19:24Z")
I just can’t wait for this new Kingdom. I go back to sleep now…cya when the Kingdom comes… ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/b/beae5315af5aca45f3a25e424f82e64bf9357a2f.png) ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 12:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578/82 "2016-11-03T12:36:05Z")
this new kingdom looks crazy! 😁 just for a moment i was thinking its a shame im not a low level and i wont have any use on those maps… for a moment xD [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoilers-new-kingdom-11-11/14578.md?page=5)