# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Spoilers\ **Created:** [May 14, 2021, 6:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968 "2021-05-14T06:09:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ctenn2ls](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ctenn2ls/32/69996_2.png) [@ctenn2ls](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ctenn2ls)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/62 "2021-06-24T20:44:51Z")
That’d be neat. ToD needs a shakeup in my opinion as it is so long in between events. I’m sure it’s on the dev’s radar that something needs to be done with that and a method to collect doom scrolls in a reasonable timeframe. I wonder if there’s significance to it being a legendary troop? Usually we only get them in new troop event key drops or in new delve factions, but there are only 3 kingdoms which need factions left, so possibly a way to keep new troops being introduced regularly without that content? ---
**Author:** ![Crow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/crow/32/44074_2.png) [@Crow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Crow)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/63 "2021-06-24T23:45:27Z")
Ultimate doom , the one that uses all the colors? ---
**Author:** ![ctenn2ls](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ctenn2ls/32/69996_2.png) [@ctenn2ls](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ctenn2ls)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 2:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/64 "2021-06-25T02:24:30Z")
Maybe? I also wonder if they’ll eventually put the six Doom troops into key drops eventually since Tower happens so infrequently now. I’ve been playing a year and a half now, but I still only have my Doom troops to Epic level, and I don’t see that changing unless I orb them. ---
**Author:** ![Cue1st](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@Cue1st](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cue1st)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/65 "2021-06-26T16:32:31Z")
i have 2,250 gems and am thinking of using them on 50 VIP chests. I am wondering if waiting for Mithrilion is a good idea ---
**Author:** ![Magnusimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/magnusimus/32/50652_2.png) [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 7:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/66 "2021-06-26T19:50:00Z")
Probably not, if you have need of other mythics — this one looks likely to only be useful for the purpose of getting kingdom stars. ---
**Author:** ![Cue1st](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@Cue1st](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cue1st)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/67 "2021-06-26T20:03:35Z")
What do you think? my current mythics are: Champion of Anu Ishtara Umenath Undine Mother of Darkness Megavore Plague Shade of Zorn Vernalis ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/68 "2021-06-26T20:39:14Z")
My advice would be use gems for other things like event tiers and new delves and such. Keys are plentiful if you’re in a good guild and play a lot. ---
**Author:** ![covertmuffin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5daacb/32.png) [@covertmuffin123](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/covertmuffin123)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/69 "2021-06-26T21:00:26Z")
I’d recommend saving diamonds for Phoenicia and The Possessed King. Using gems to open chests isn’t a very good long term investment, but if you want to do it to beef up your early collection, you probably wouldn’t want to target this upcoming mythic. Edit: I spent my first 1-2 million glory just opening glory chests. You get an average of one mythic every 100-200k glory (I forget which), and it gets your epics and legendaries to mythic too. Plus lots of gems from the chests. ---
**Author:** ![Cue1st](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@Cue1st](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cue1st)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 9:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/70 "2021-06-26T21:56:56Z")
i feel like Mithrilion/Divinia (to cleanse if mith gets stunned/Keeper of Souls/Fist of Heaven or Rope Dart woud be a good team ---
**Author:** ![Magnusimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/magnusimus/32/50652_2.png) [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/71 "2021-06-26T23:45:01Z")
Ultimately it comes down to what you find most fun — no one knows that better than you 🤷‍♂️ But if your goal is progress in the game, or competitive Guild Wars teams, there are many other mythics that are much more “must-have” than Mythrilian is likely to be. Of those you don’t have that I myself use often: High King Irongut Euryali The Gray King Shahbanu Vespera Zuul’Goth (not relevant to the key discussion here, but thought I’d toss it out so you’d know to save your orbs, rather than spend them) There are others. Basically — ask after a specific _goal_ you have, and people here can point you to the best troops to get the job done 👍 ---
**Author:** ![ctenn2ls](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ctenn2ls/32/69996_2.png) [@ctenn2ls](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ctenn2ls)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 11:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/72 "2021-06-26T23:53:37Z")
Cue1st, I got really excited when I first unlocked the VIP keys and had gems saved up enough to open 50. I will say my personal experience was underwhelming and didn’t shower me with new mythics, so just keep your expectations grounded. I echo other folks that I’ve had way more luck saving my gems for buying tiers/sigils in guild events than trying for troops with them. It seems like you should do the opposite, but this is the better way. Use your keys when you get them early on until you’ve steadily ascended your troops, don’t focus on mythics so much unless they are blocking your kingdom star upgrading at 10 or higher. They’ll come in naturally, and the devs aren’t kidding when they say some legendaries are better than mythics. You’ve got some good ones in your collection, use gems to buy the daily Dungeon offer for diamonds, and craft your mythics on the regular every month or so. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 11:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/73 "2021-06-26T23:57:10Z")
> [@Cue1st](#): > > i feel like Mithrilion/Divinia Mithrilion is a flawed troop. It gains armor, so its heavily susceptible to True Damage (even if it has 50% spell block). Its mostly built up to be a front line troop, but at 24 mana is far too slow to be effective. It gains no actual skull protection either, meaning it’ll be very easy for it to be bursted down by skull damage (which is very common nowadays). It doesn’t help explode 3x3 is worse than destroy 5x5 despite being functionally similar. Also, Lycanthropy. Using Mithrilion is basically using a troop on a team you were going to win with, even without Mithrilion. If you’re dead set on using Mithrilion, Dwarven Gate is basically a functional replacement at a smaller mana cost. ---
**Author:** ![Cue1st](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@Cue1st](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cue1st)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 12:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/74 "2021-06-27T00:05:35Z")
awesome! really helpful! by the way, i am lvl 1100 ironically, i just used one single key….boom! landed Mistralus! playing; Death Knell (Stormcaller) Divinia Diviner Mistralus Sooooo fun ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Killbrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Dr\_Killbrew](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dr_Killbrew)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 9:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/76 "2021-06-28T09:46:23Z")
There’s a super common PvP team, that works both as offense and defense (I’m not really into Guild Wars, so others will have to verify if it’s still effective there) using Mistralus. Purple/Yellow weapon, I’m blanking on the name right now, but it creates green gems boosted by enchanted allies and gives Life to hero Queen Beetrix Mistralus Empowered convertor (most use the shentang rabbit that converts blue to yellow) If you’re lucky, the board will be set up that your convertor can instantly fill your hero with a 4+ match, which will proc Mistralus’ trait, making your weapon create enough gems to fill Beetrix, and hopefully she can just keep looping til you win. It’s not a _perfect_ team, as Beetrix is not a 100% guaranteed extra turn, so every now and then she’ll backfire on you, but it’s still effective enough to work _most_ of the time ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 8:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/77 "2021-06-30T08:07:09Z")
Does anyone have a graphic for Kingdom Star requirements beyond level 20? ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 9:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/78 "2021-06-30T09:14:20Z")
> [@awryan](#): > > Does anyone have a graphic for Kingdom Star requirements beyond level 20? Not mine, not sure who made it. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/5/c5e99fcb80651819432c640043c70c5a8d3bcf56.png) ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 12:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/79 "2021-06-30T12:44:48Z")
Thanks! (Less than 10) ---
**Author:** ![Dank](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dank/32/74470_2.png) [@Dank](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dank)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/80 "2021-06-30T16:40:55Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#): > > Not mine, not sure who made it. It’s by Paulius Stepanas [Gems of War Quick Reference Tables](http://paulius.50webs.com/gow-tables.html#kingdompower). I found the same table with a link to the source in the Wiki-lynx #kingdoms channel [Discord](https://discord.com/channels/726519516359688275/726554430819926058/743274782052843630). ---
**Author:** ![Live](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/live/32/40596_2.png) [@Live](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Live)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/81 "2021-07-13T19:03:00Z")
New Event Spoiler, Gnomes this weekend (Thursday till sunday 🧐). Ok, Update. But so we get new underworld and guild wars the same weekend… of course + campaign 🤦 ---
**Author:** ![ctenn2ls](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ctenn2ls/32/69996_2.png) [@ctenn2ls](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ctenn2ls)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 7:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968/82 "2021-07-13T19:08:35Z")
Absolutely worth it for Vault event 4 day weekend. I’ll take that trade anytime. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-2/69968.md?page=5)