# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Spoilers\ **Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 70
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1392 "2016-11-24T15:52:49Z")
There is this image in the folder: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/6/678f424bbd1402011ab8b9821f1ddf188c1c147c.png) Which is an unknown Maugrim Woods troop ---
**Author:** ![alebenja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9d8465/32.png) [@alebenja](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/alebenja)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1393 "2016-11-24T15:55:28Z")
that’s horus from what I undrestood from before ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 3:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1394 "2016-11-24T15:57:23Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/f/f5ab1fe6a0e35ddcd6197a2c03b667dc100e6fa9.png) Thought that was Horus, fitting the Egyptian theme from Khetar ---
**Author:** ![alebenja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9d8465/32.png) [@alebenja](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/alebenja)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1395 "2016-11-24T16:15:33Z")
yep definetly better fitting! ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 4:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1396 "2016-11-24T16:18:25Z")
Next Mythic is: WULFGAROK Mythic Maugrim Woods Wargare-Beast Fangs and Claws (24 Green/Red/Purple) Deal [Magic + 2] damage to an enemy, boosted by Wargare Allies. If the enemy dies, devour a random enemy. [4x] (Invigorated, Impervious, First Wargare) MAX Attack:24 Life:24 Armor:13 Magic:8 The Wulf among us First Wargare: Allied Wargare gain 5 Attack and Magic. Arcane Beast Traitstone: 12 (Wild Plains) Arcane Venom Traitstone: 12 (Zhul’Kari) Celestial Traitstone: 4 ---
**Author:** ![Namour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/namour/32/2957_2.png) [@Namour](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Namour)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1397 "2016-11-24T17:21:11Z")
Devour a random enemy after a targeted spell. People gonna spend their stash. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1398 "2016-11-24T17:33:48Z")
Would this waregare be an alpha, beta or an omega? ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1400 "2016-11-24T21:09:51Z")
Hmm it’s drafted as a Beast so can gain Fast from the Forest Guardian… sounds a bit scary… and yet the spell doesn’t seem mythic scary, damage can’t be that high… I wonder if it counts as a Wargare to (1) benefit from its own third trait and (2) count towards its own damage boost…? ---
**Author:** ![CSZ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/csz/32/4784_2.png) [@CSZ](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CSZ)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1401 "2016-11-24T21:11:03Z")
Let’s see: Base damage without boosts: 10 Plus 8 for all magic kingdoms, plus 5 for his trait results in 23. Then boosted by 4 Wargares (including himself) result in 39. It’s not that low, if you ask me. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 9:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1402 "2016-11-24T21:14:02Z")
39, actually, because 4x boost ratio = +16 damage for 4 Wargare. Then +2 for the guild bonus makes 41 damage. ---
**Author:** ![CSZ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/csz/32/4784_2.png) [@CSZ](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CSZ)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1403 "2016-11-24T21:15:06Z")
Damn short-time memory. Thanks for the corrrection. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1404 "2016-11-24T21:42:11Z")
Nice. But arguably less than War does and certainly less than Famine does. For a whack of a cost. And needs an all Wargare team to get that high, which rules out any utility troops to help charge it up. Nah, I’m not scared. Note Gard’s Avatar easily does that much damage to _all_ enemies! Also what’s this Invigorated trait that keeps turning up? On a Mythic and the new Legendary? That’s rubbish… ---
**Author:** ![GemsCollector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b4bc9f/32.png) [@GemsCollector](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GemsCollector)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1405 "2016-11-24T21:58:23Z")
> [@Jainus](#): > > Note Gard’s Avatar easily does that much damage to all enemies! You’re very wrong here, Mister. Gard’s Avatar easily does _more_ damage to all enemies. 🙂 Much more later on if they refuse to die. Around 60 damage on his third cast is not unusual. ---
**Author:** ![Fifthelement](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fifthelement/32/8383_2.png) [@Fifthelement](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fifthelement)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 9:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1406 "2016-11-24T21:59:04Z")
> [@Jainus](#): > > which rules out any utility troops to help charge it up. Nah, I’m not scared. On the other hand, you use it on something that already got slapped before, and when it dies - you DEVOUR another one (if it’s a full hp troop, that’s up to 90dmg as a “bonus”? 😃 ), only better, because you gain it. I agree it won’t be an issue to play against, but I wouldn’t write it off as an attacking option. ---
**Author:** ![en9nhcet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/en9nhcet/32/1673_2.png) [@en9nhcet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/en9nhcet)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 10:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1407 "2016-11-24T22:01:14Z")
If that’s the spell the ends up getting released it does seem… ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/3/30edb7af660ef5de88964ba29c7164dfe691b402.jpg) 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1408 "2016-11-24T22:34:25Z")
Gard and Famine can’t really be taken as a measure though (at least i hope they don’t), they are objectively overpowered. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1409 "2016-11-24T22:44:01Z")
They’re very strong. Gard is overpowered. Famine a bit less so and far more situational. Are they overpowered or are other mythics underpowered? Dunno… ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 10:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1410 "2016-11-24T22:54:10Z")
It all depends on whether or not base mythics are supposed to be straight up better than strong lower rarity troops. If the aim is to replace all other rarity troops with base mythics in the very end then Gard is “well-rounded”, i guess? I hope that is not the design goal, mostly because chest rng hates me, but if it is then Gard is probably a good measurepoint, yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1411 "2016-11-25T01:54:22Z")
Worth noting one of those traitstones is available right now. Get some more? ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 5:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1412 "2016-11-25T05:06:37Z")
hmm this fits name but doesnt look like a mythic [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280.md?page=69) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280.md?page=71)