# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Spoilers\ **Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 69
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1372 "2016-11-22T15:53:27Z")
So to recap: 11/28 Leonis: Red/Yellow and Yellow/Brown 12/05 Khetar: Blue/Yellow and Yellow/Purple 12/12 Darkstone: Green and Blue/Purple 12/19 Glacial Peaks: Blue and Blue/Brown 12/26 Stormheim: Yellow and Green/Red 01/02 Karakoth: Red/Purple and Red/Brown Order subject to change 🙂 edit: Updated w/ Lyya data. I don’t bother with spoiler tags as this is a thread with spoiler in name, in the spoiler forum, all about spoilers. If someone gets spoiled reading it, it is their own fault. ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 3:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1373 "2016-11-22T15:56:29Z")
Thanks @Lyya 😸 ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1374 "2016-11-22T16:43:33Z")
A few more details/changes: Khetar is Rare Blue/Yellow and Ultra-Rare Yellow/Purple Karakoth is Ultra-Rare Red/Purple and Epic Red/Brown Stormheim is Common Yellow and Ultra-Rare Green/Red Release order is currently set as: Khetar \> Darkstone \> Glacial Peaks \> Stormheim \> Karakoth ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1375 "2016-11-22T17:00:02Z")
Wow we are getting a rare troop? That’s new 😮 I hope it will be 400 cost for 2 rare troops and 2 arcane stones 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1376 "2016-11-22T17:01:00Z")
> [@Rasper](#): > > I don’t bother with spoiler tags as this is a thread with spoiler in name, in the spoiler forum, all about spoilers. If someone gets spoiled reading it, it is their own fault. I like how you think. Have my like sir. ---
**Author:** ![yonizaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/yonizaf/32/1435_2.png) [@yonizaf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/yonizaf)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1377 "2016-11-22T17:02:28Z")
> [@DonBoba](#): > > Wow we are getting a rare troop? That’s new 😮 > I hope it will be 400 cost for 2 rare troops and 2 arcane stones 😃 It’s not new, it happened before. the cost for rares is 300 glory for 2 troops and one arcane. ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1378 "2016-11-22T17:05:25Z")
So this will take us all the way to mid-January, roughly 2 months from the release of Blackhawk. Since kingdoms have been coming out every 2 months (Leonis mid July, Dragon mid September, Blackhawk mid November), this should culminate in the next kingdom. Then we just need events for Dragon’s Claw, Drifting Sands, and Blackhawk and all kingdoms will be up to 10 troops and ready for 7\* ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1379 "2016-11-22T17:05:26Z")
Stormheim event better make Firemantles minions as ridiculous as the Maugrim one… ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1380 "2016-11-22T17:06:18Z")
Maybe the next major update will unlock 8, 9, and 10 stars… ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1381 "2016-11-22T17:07:36Z")
> [@htismaqe](#): > > Maybe the next major update will unlock 8, 9, and 10 stars… At current diminishing returns value, we need 14 troops to hit 8 stars I think ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1382 "2016-11-22T17:08:55Z")
Wow really? Which troop was it? ---
**Author:** ![yonizaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/yonizaf/32/1435_2.png) [@yonizaf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/yonizaf)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1383 "2016-11-22T17:16:16Z")
At least Savage Hunter (Wild Plains) and Fire Lizard (Broken Spire). There may have been more, can’t remember. > [@I Believe I Can Fly](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-believe-i-can-fly/11358): > > Originally published at: [I Believe I Can Fly – Gems of War](http://gemsofwar.com/i-believe-i-can-fly/) Fly! Be free! New Troop: Winged Bison [[image] ](http://gemsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/blog_wingedbison.png) The Winged Bison move in huge brightly-colored herds across the Wild Plains, flying from one watering-hole to another. Once every year, as Summer begins to take hold, and the water supplies begin to dwindle, the Winged Bison begin a massive migration north and east over the mountains into the Divinion fields. The Winged Bison will be available both as a Glory reward and in Event Chests… > [@What is Lava?](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-lava/10844): > > Originally published at: [What is Lava? – Gems of War](http://gemsofwar.com/what-is-lava/) It’s getting hot in here… New Troop: Lava Elemental [[image] ](http://gemsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/blog_lavaelemental.png) Deep within the labyrinthine tunnels of the Broken Spire live many different elemental creatures, but some of the most fearsome are the Lava Elementals. Fortunately for most of us, because they are composed of molten rock, these creatures cannot move far from their lava lakes, lest they cool and turn into statues. When this happens, they do not die, instead they are trapped unti… ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1384 "2016-11-22T17:30:09Z")
You are right, somehow I managed to erase that from my mind. Ty for the information 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![yonizaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/yonizaf/32/1435_2.png) [@yonizaf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/yonizaf)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1385 "2016-11-22T17:33:59Z")
> [@Rasper](#): > > At current diminishing returns value, we need 14 troops to hit 8 stars I think It’s 14 troops for 8 stars (3500 points required), 17 troops for 9 stars (3800), 20 troops for 10 stars (4000). At least for now, there’s always the chance they may change that. ---
**Author:** ![Zelfore](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelfore/32/22295_2.png) [@Zelfore](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelfore)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 1:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1386 "2016-11-23T01:38:38Z")
> [@yonizaf](#): > > 20 troops for 10 stars (4000) Basically, don’t go expecting that third stat bonus anytime soon. 😛 Also, every kingdom will likely have at least 1 Mythic before reaching this point. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1387 "2016-11-23T02:00:24Z")
> [@Zelfore](#): > > at least 1 Mythic WTB sort by base rarity. ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1388 "2016-11-23T02:26:59Z")
I guess and hope that they will remove the diminishing returns so it wouldn’t require crazy amount of troops. 20 troops would take more then 2 years for existing kingdoms to just reach that point (with a rate of 2-3 troops a week). Not to add new troops to that which would prolong it even more. As it is now a kingdom is released with 6 troops with a week right after that that adds 2 more troops. At a rate of 3 troops per week it would take another whole month for a new kingdom to get to 20 troops. At a rate of 2 troops a month and a half. ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 2:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1389 "2016-11-23T02:34:20Z")
Unless they change the point of diminished returns. Currently: 1-10 = 325 each 11+ = 80 each So 8 = 2600 (5\*) 9 = 2950 (6\*) 10 = 3250 (7\*) 14 = 3570 (8\*) 17 = 3810 (9\*) 20 = 4050 (10\*) If they changed the cut off to 11 1-11 = 325 each 12+ = 80 each So 10 = 3250 (7\*) 11 = 3575 (8\*) 14 = 3815 (9\*) 17 = 4055 (10\*) If they changed the cut off to 12 1-12 = 325 each 13+ = 80 each So 10 = 3250 (7\*) 11 = 3575 (8\*) 12 = 3900 (9\*) 14 = 4060 (10\*) ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1390 "2016-11-23T02:37:53Z")
I’m sure the diminishing returns will be re/moved. Its in place right now to work with the current system, where we can reach the maximum benefit without having all the troops _even with_ the reductions. ---
**Author:** ![alebenja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9d8465/32.png) [@alebenja](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/alebenja)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/1391 "2016-11-24T15:41:54Z")
so, with Horus being later mythic, there will be another one next friday? or we’ll have christmas without mythic? [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280.md?page=68) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280.md?page=70)