# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1)
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280
**Category:** Spoilers
**Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@TimeKnight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TimeKnight)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 12:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9870 "2020-12-22T12:06:27Z")
> [@TimeKnight](#):
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> It’s a Major Arcana Tarot theme, and troop art with boarder is to make it look like an actual Tarot card.
> [@Campaign Begins: Phoenix Stone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/1):
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> We have introduced a new series of Legendary Troops to Campaigns inspired by the Major Arcana Tarot Cards. _(The Sun Art has been refined and will be receiving a slight graphic update in the next update)._
Yes! The whole series!! It would be too slow at 1 card per Campaign though. Excited about the updated art!
> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> Banding Traits?
I’m very curious about that. For me, it feels like a new mode based on Warband, that work similar to Bounty, but with those traits as an add-on bonus.
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### Author:  [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 12:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9871 "2020-12-22T12:40:21Z")
> [@TimeKnight](#):
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> For me, it feels like a new mode based on Warband, that work similar to Bounty, but with those traits as an add-on bonus.
Those banding traits feel five years too late to have any noticeable impact. Just look at Banding Armor, gain 2 armor for each ally with a banding trait. That’s at most 8 armor. Basically an inverse Bond trait that grants 2 armor to all allies, and those are already deemed a wasted trait slot. If the bonus is set to scale (as in something like 2 + 10% base value for each ally) it might work out. The numbers above just scream “dead on arrival”, you’ll feel sorry for each troop that gets stuck with this disappointment instead of a useful trait.
Sanctuary and Artillery Support look quite powerful.
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### Author:  [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 1:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9872 "2020-12-22T13:04:09Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#):
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> The numbers above just scream “dead on arrival”
True. Though… meanwhile …
> [@Improve Classes (Full Analysis, Problems & Solutions)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/improve-classes-full-analysis-problems-solutions/52673/2):
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> Oh and while I have your attention … please buff Poison. Its hilarious.
> [@If you were a Sirrian, what would you advise your team to improve about Gems of War?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-were-a-sirrian-what-would-you-advise-your-team-to-improve-about-gems-of-war/58214/10):
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> What’s the deal with poison? Seriously.
🤔
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### Author:  [@SevenSidedBox](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SevenSidedBox)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9873 "2020-12-22T20:36:39Z")
If they include all of the major arcana, then wouldn’t they have to rename Death (the mythic troop) to something else so as not to conflict with the XIII arcana? Chances are though that they are probably going to use only a few of the arcana, not all 22.
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### Author:  [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9874 "2020-12-22T23:05:50Z")
Death is also commonly called rebirth in new tarot decks. The more you know… 😛
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### Author:  [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2020, 6:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9875 "2020-12-23T06:44:35Z")
> [SPELLEFFECT\_CAUSELYCANTHROPY]
> Lycanthropy
> [TROOPHELP\_LYCANTHROPY\_1]
> Lycanthropy
> [TROOPHELP\_LYCANTHROPY\_2]
> A 10% chance to transform into a random Beast each turn. However, there is a cumulative 10% chance to recover each turn.
Say what, a new status effect? Haven’t seen that in a while 😃
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### Author:  [@TimeKnight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TimeKnight)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2020, 9:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9876 "2020-12-23T09:15:16Z")
> [@mitamata](#):
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> A 10% chance to transform into a random Beast each turn
Whoa… Werewolf invasion!
Seems like it can backfired easily by giving your enemies a stronger Beast than original troop. Remind me of Dragon’s Eye.
> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> Sanctuary: Barrier and Bless a random Ally when matching 4 or more Gems: Might be Archdeva’s 3rd trait?
Now that it’s confirmed, I still don’t care much for him. Seems like an unnecessary middle man, with only exception being Ketra. Or you like to cast it on Daemon Gnome for some reason.
Cleanse is more common now, so I’m not sure if I need his bless. Rather stick my Christian Jotnar for better spell. 😁
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### Author:  [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2020, 9:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9877 "2020-12-23T09:32:17Z")
thanks!
I don’t see the point of a one time cast troop at 20 mana that does… that
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### Author:  [@SevenSidedBox](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SevenSidedBox)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9878 "2020-12-24T20:38:50Z")
Archdeva uses magic x 2 in the calculation for his ability but it is still underwhelming. I mean the third trait isn’t bad at all and giving full mana is nice but it really doesn’t make up for the one cast restriction. I don’t think even magic x 3 would make me want to use him. Maybe if his spell also boosted magic in addition to atk, armor, and life?
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### Author:  [@XLS78](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/XLS78)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9879 "2020-12-24T22:37:10Z")
As it is, The Archdeva could already turn several troops into raging one-shot machines against any other player and even many AI teams. That trait is also going to make it super annoying/indispensable in GW, I’m thinking.
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### Author:  [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2020, 3:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9880 "2020-12-25T03:41:13Z")
Way, way too slow to matter, methinks, especially with a passed turn…
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### Author:  [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2020, 4:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9881 "2020-12-25T04:28:42Z")
I would really like to see The Archdeva with the Empowered trait. Its not an Empowered converter, so I won’t be annoyed by a turn 1 board state favoring the AI, but it definitely would create a lot of team opportunities that just needs a jump start to function, even if it stayed at one cast. There hasn’t been a mythic empowered troop yet, so there’s always a first…
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### Author:  [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2020, 4:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9882 "2020-12-25T04:45:56Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> I would really like to see The Archdeva with the Empowered trait.
I don’t know if I would _like_ that, but it would certainly make the troop _interesting_ (and worth using at all 😂)
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### Author:  [@Dr\_Killbrew](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dr_Killbrew)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2020, 6:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9883 "2020-12-26T06:22:33Z")
Is it weird that I’d rather see all Mana Start traits nerfed? The Hero troop type starts can get buffed from 50\>60, but legendary type starts can all drop to Ishbaala level 40%, Empowered drop down to 80, and I forget the order of quick/swift/fast, but make them 20/40/60. It’s kind of ridiculous that any team can win a match in a single turn
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### Author:  [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2020, 7:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9884 "2020-12-26T07:09:21Z")
> [@Dr\_Killbrew](#):
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> Is it weird that I’d rather see all Mana Start traits nerfed? The Hero troop type starts can get buffed from 50\>60, but legendary type starts can all drop to Ishbaala level 40%, Empowered drop down to 80, and I forget the order of quick/swift/fast, but make them 20/40/60. It’s kind of ridiculous that any team can win a match in a single turn
You have me for about 75% of it. If mana start traits should get nerfed in the future, they should all get nerfed (i.e. not having the heroes 50% move up to 60%).
Truly, the fast mana start troops that annoy me are the empowered ones… but they’ve dug their own mess in all of that. I don’t think I’d lose any sleep if they all got dropped down to 75% mana start
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### Author:  [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9885 "2020-12-26T15:22:54Z")
> [@Dr\_Killbrew](#):
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> It’s kind of ridiculous that any team can win a match in a single turn
Any team cannot do this. And its possible without empowered troops.
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### Author:  [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9886 "2020-12-26T16:01:00Z")
I interpreted “any team” to mean “even one team” rather than “all possible teams”. And I remember being _so proud_ when my Treant-Alchemist-Banshee-Valkyrie team won a match without the AI ever getting a turn—in 2017.
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### Author:  [@Dr\_Killbrew](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dr_Killbrew)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9887 "2020-12-26T19:33:58Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> You have me for about 75% of it. If mana start traits should get nerfed in the future, they should all get nerfed (i.e. not having the heroes 50% move up to 60%).
I just think Hero traits should be more special than legendary troops. If talent trees weren’t a thing, then Titan wouldn’t be _nearly_ as widely used as it is, and Shaman and Mechanist already don’t have much going for them outside of their troop type benefiting from a few other troop’s traits/spells
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### Author:  [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2020, 2:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9888 "2020-12-28T02:46:36Z")
Anyone know how long until we start getting kingdoms to KP 24? (Requires KL 16) Also, what will be the first few kingdoms to reach there?
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### Author:  [@ButtStallion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ButtStallion)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2020, 4:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9889 "2020-12-28T04:47:08Z")
We are a long way away from any kingdom getting to KP 24. It’s impossible to know which kingdom will get there first but mist of scales is currently 21 so it’s the closest. No kingdom in the next few months will even reach 22.
Suffice to say we will be waiting a longtime to have a lot of kingdoms at that level lol. With factions likely finishing in 2021 we would need a new kingdom set or another new mode to add troops to kingdoms monthly like factions did.
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