# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280>\
**Category:** Spoilers\
**Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![SevenSidedBox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@SevenSidedBox](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SevenSidedBox)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 11:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9810 "2020-11-30T11:07:15Z")

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Those Warband things have listed coordinates for the main Krystara map. Any idea where exactly they are positioned? I mean the current map is already pretty crowded. Not a lot of free space left there.

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**Author:** ![Neritar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/neritar/32/39263_2.png) [@Neritar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Neritar)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 11:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9811 "2020-11-30T11:28:51Z")

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Right (east) border of the current map. Maybe the map will be extended because our menu buttons are very close.

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 11:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9812 "2020-11-30T11:33:43Z")

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for reference:

Dhrak-Zum  
Map name: Krystara  
Map position: 1858 x 271

Blighted Lands  
Map name: Krystara  
Map position: 1896 x 1413

**WARBAND:ArmoredLegion**  
Map name: Krystara  
Map position: 1978 x 435

**Pan’s Vale**  
Map name: Krystara  
Map position: 942 x 480

So chances are the map is going to be zoomed out to fit more icons on the world map (guesswork)

It could be extended as well as Neritar stated.

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**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 11:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9813 "2020-11-30T11:37:52Z")

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> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> So chances are the map is going to be zoomed out to fit more icons on the world map (guesswork)
> 
> It could be extended as well as Neritar stated.

Extended in Both → East and South to make room for Warbands invading Krystara from east and south (my guess).

Extending to the North or West would require: remapping all current kingdoms or using negative numbers in kingdom positions, which looks like too much work…

Another option:  
Their current map position are placeholders and new world map will be added (similiar do underworld).

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**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9814 "2020-11-30T18:13:59Z")

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> [@Neritar](#):
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> The next update (big or small) is a guarantee to be before Christmas, because they need to put Christmas icon as a game icon for mobile (and it’s also a reason for a small update after Christmas/Halloween - to remove that icon, Sirrian described that system in one of the Q&A).  
> My personal guess is that update will be in 2 weeks, because:  
> 4.7 was released on December 11, 2019,  
> 4.2 was released on December 10, 2018,  
> 3.2.5 was released on December 12, 2017,  
> 2.2 was released on December 14, 2016

That’s in line with my expectations.

Given usual lead times for console certifications, the update probably has to be sent off by the end of this week (if not sooner) to make a launch window two weeks away. The diff file push has a good chance of being a “final”-ish build being prepared to be sent off for certification.

And for the sake of disclosure, as someone will surely ask, the public beta team has not as of yet been asked to review any 5.3 builds. Of course, the devs are under no obligation whatsoever to make any beta build available to the public testers and are entirely in their right to use strictly only internal QA staff. Given the new information from the diff files about Warbands, the devs might have chosen to intentionally keep this update close to the vest and did not want to risk any potential leaks.

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**Author:** ![Live](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/live/32/40596_2.png) [@Live](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Live)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 12:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9815 "2020-12-01T12:20:41Z")

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> [@Lyrian](#):
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> And for the sake of disclosure, as someone will surely ask, the public beta team has not as of yet been asked to review any 5.3 builds.

😀 👆  
What was the last version, the testers were involved?  
btw all i have read here abouts the tests they are more Release-Candidate than Beta tests 🤔

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**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9816 "2020-12-01T14:42:19Z")

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> [@Live](#):
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> What was the last version, the testers were involved?

5.2.0 was the last version where there was a public beta test.

> [@Live](#):
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> all i have read here abouts the tests they are more Release-Candidate than Beta tests

Personal opinion, but that’s a fair assessment of the situation. I’ve said in the past that we’re more of a focus group than actual bug hunters, though we do actually do that with the beta candidate we are presented. When we get invited to test some feature, it’s usually 95%+ complete and the devs are looking more at actual play data that we generate for balancing/tuning purposes before that content goes live. We do not have the capability to “reject” a build and send it back for a rework if we all unanimously dislike what we are shown.

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**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9817 "2020-12-01T21:03:38Z")

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Elseways I might still be participating in such things. The number of times I said “jesus no don’t do that!!” and watched it go live and get hated by literally everyone …

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**Author:** ![Crow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/crow/32/44074_2.png) [@Crow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Crow)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 2:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9818 "2020-12-02T02:56:14Z")

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This, so much.

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**Author:** ![Ticket\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Ticket\_Ninja](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ticket_Ninja)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 1:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9819 "2020-12-03T13:25:16Z")

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These have disappeared now on [Taransworld.com](http://Taransworld.com)…

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**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9820 "2020-12-03T13:28:58Z")

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Proves that DEVs are reading this spoiler thread and hiding things that are in some early development or things that they dont want to be asked on stream by curious players ^^

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9821 "2020-12-03T14:01:33Z")

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good thing I screenshot it at least…

now if they only tested their mythics before release

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**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9822 "2020-12-03T19:01:00Z")

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> [@Ticket\_Ninja](#):
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> These have disappeared now on [Taransworld.com](http://Taransworld.com)…

> [@Sytro](#):
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> Proves that DEVs are reading this spoiler thread and hiding things that are in some early development or things that they dont want to be asked on stream by curious players ^^

My guess would be Taran made them go away because it’s not clear what they are yet and if they belong in kingdoms. They were showing up on his MyProfile page too([MyProfile/ Hero Info](https://www.taransworld.com/HeroInfo/MyProfile.pl?)), he fixed that as well:

 ![Screen Shot 2020-11-30 at 12.25.02 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/c/8c17f0c68f606a4c2f8e33c6b1b1aad91c491185.png)

Or maybe devs did remove them, but I feel like they don’t care enough to go through the effort.

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**Author:** ![XLS78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b2d939/32.png) [@XLS78](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/XLS78)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9823 "2020-12-03T21:15:32Z")

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I can’t be the only one whose first thought was this when they saw the word “warband.”

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/d/dd8f7d5f8d5deed1ea8f1134e6439b6fcf84a74e.jpeg)

Please, please let this be the warband!

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**Author:** ![ctenn2ls](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ctenn2ls/32/69996_2.png) [@ctenn2ls](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ctenn2ls)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9824 "2020-12-06T21:59:33Z")

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The Sun troop looks extremely similar in concept to Heart of Rage. It’s a legendary, single mana (yellow), construct released around the same time as the campaign capstone mythic. I think this will be another Soulforge mythic similar to Enraged Kurandara. Something like Solar Quetzalma or something. That would mean that the final crafted troop has elements of both component’s spells and traits combined. I wonder what that looks like, maybe adding the extra turn chance based on non-yellow gems for Quetzalma?

Not only do I think that this is likely, but I’d bet there will eventually be a craftable boss mythic representing each color of mana. First we had Enraged Kurandara with the red HoR. This in theory would have the yellow Sun. I can see this being a recurring theme. I just hope they don’t all require 8 power orbs, or that they provide ways for increased major orb/full power orb drops to help keep up.

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**Author:** ![Crow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/crow/32/44074_2.png) [@Crow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Crow)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9825 "2020-12-07T00:28:23Z")

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This unobtanium, bs has to stop.

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**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9826 "2020-12-07T01:54:10Z")

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> [@Crow](#):
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> This unobtanium, bs has to stop.

Payobtanium 🤑

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**Author:** ![NerdieBirdie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nerdiebirdie/32/103793_2.png) [@NerdieBirdie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NerdieBirdie)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 2:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9827 "2020-12-07T02:00:37Z")

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> [@ctenn2ls](#):
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> I just hope they don’t all require 8 power orbs, or that they provide ways for increased major orb/full power orb drops to help keep up.

Hehe… I wouldn’t get your hopes up 😅

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 5:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9828 "2020-12-07T05:22:46Z")

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> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> The Scourge of Honor (Mythic)  
> Trait #1: Immortal  
> _25% chance to resurrect after death._

> [@Fleg](#):
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> So a couple years ago (when they used to listen to feedback) they changed The Dragon Soul’s spell because of all the complaints (but strangely left Infernal Kings’ intact) now we have more incoming traits like this? 🤦‍♂️

Immortal got changed to

Trait #1: Immune  
_Immunity to Disease._

for the mythic.

Some minor spoilers, not much worth note except maybe this?

> **Fundingus**
>
> **Fundingus**  
> _Fungal in the Jungle._
> 
> Arcane: Beast  
> Base Rarity: Epic  
> Troop Type: Elemental, Goblin  
> Troop Role: Generator
> 
> **Purple Spores**  
> _Explode [Magic + 1] Purple Gems. Then summon either a Giant Toadstool or an Exploadstool. Gain an extra turn._
> 
> Mana Color: Green, Red  
> Mana Cost: 13
> 
> Trait #1: Immune  
> _Immunity to Disease._
> 
> Trait #2: Plague Touch  
> _Inflict Disease when doing Skull damage._
> 
> Trait #3: Poison Spores  
> _Inflict Poison when I take Skull damage._

Nothing super amazing, but its an extra turn Elemental Exploder…

> **Prism Staff**
>
> _Chose a Color. Remove all Gems of that Color. Deal [Magic + 6] scatter damage, boosted by the Gems removed._  
> Fey: Faerie Fire the First Enemy, Enchanting: Enchant Myself

A 2 color Anu’s Scepter with a tiny bit more upside.

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**Author:** ![Live](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/live/32/40596_2.png) [@Live](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Live)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 5:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9829 "2020-12-07T05:40:24Z")

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I dont really get the link to enraged kura, heart of rage or sth similar.  
Atm more a unit first from the pass (with a kingdom) you can get from the forge or by chests later.

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