# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Spoilers\ **Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 475
**Author:** ![noob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/noob/32/54823_2.png) [@noob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/noob)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9587 "2020-08-14T22:47:25Z")
I guess they are the campaign legendary and mythic which were accidentally put in chests a few weeks ago ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 12:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9588 "2020-08-15T00:11:19Z")
The 3 Legendaries are part of the Mythic šŸ¤”. ---
**Author:** ![PGSundling](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/pgsundling/32/39480_2.png) [@PGSundling](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/PGSundling)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9589 "2020-08-15T00:30:06Z")
I counted my troops and I have 864. I know that [gowdb.com](http://gowdb.com) skips the 6 treasure troops, so I should have 858. I hadnā€™t updated in a few weeks, so Iā€™m wondering if gowdb is updating. Iā€™ll have to check on Monday if the numbers go up from 857 as the max. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 5:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9590 "2020-08-15T05:04:33Z")
gowdb doesnā€™t have the daemon gnome yet ---
**Author:** ![holyporko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/holyporko/32/75733_2.png) [@holyporko](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/holyporko)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 12:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9591 "2020-08-15T12:07:54Z")
![8456](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/3/83e51cc4d4586fcd9a9525fbaf215f1eb6a91d90.png)also this ā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 2:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9592 "2020-08-15T14:11:55Z")
I think being stabbed in the eyes with that weapon would hurt less than looking at its ā€œartā€ā€¦ Oh well, at least lately we are getting some decent and even great troopā€™s artworks. ---
**Author:** ![TimeKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/timeknight/32/50221_2.png) [@TimeKnight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TimeKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9593 "2020-08-15T19:44:27Z")
Interestingā€¦ I didnā€™t realize there are more weapons in the pipeline that werenā€™t in any lists, so no info about them at all except the arts, which will be ready to put in the game live any time. Although, some arts were very telling. With red background, these are 100% new set of Doomed Weapons! ![2020-08-16 02.38.23](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/3/d3a47716c505d92fe10ab817d9ec52257e1e6def.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![holyporko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/holyporko/32/75733_2.png) [@holyporko](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/holyporko)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9594 "2020-08-16T06:41:46Z")
Doomed Wands šŸ™‚ Pretty cool looking ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 5:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9595 "2020-08-17T05:39:15Z")
thanks to Taransworld: 1 [ARENA\_EVENT\_DESCRIPTION] Win Battles in Arena runs to collect Valor and earn rewards. 2 [ARENA\_EVENT\_HEADING] Arena Weekend 3 [ARENA\_EVENT\_STAGE\_REWARD\_MAIL] Arfena Weekend Reward 4 [ARENA\_EVENT\_STAGE\_REWARD\_MAIL\_MESSAGE] You have earned enough Valor to receive a reward! 5 [ARENA\_EVENT\_TRACKER\_DESCRIPTION] Win Battles in Arena to earn Valor and win rewards in this event. Arfena is not my typo. expect that to get fixed to Arena. Let the speculations begin. Preferably not talks about more monetization please. Tinkertown troops: 1. Detect-o-bot Big Brother is watching. Base Rarity: Rare Troop Type: Mech Troop Role: Support **Electrocharge** _Give all other Allies a quarter of their Mana. Create 8 Red Gems for each Enemy with full Mana. Thereā€™s a 10% chance to self destruct. [8x]_ Mana Color: Red, Purple Mana Cost: 12 Trait #1: Deep Shield _Gain 9 Armor when attacking Delves._ Trait #2: Repair _Gain 1 Armor on 4 or 5 Gem matches._ Trait #3: Stealthy _Cannot be targeted by spells (unless there are no other targets)._ Stealthyā€¦ 1. **Smash-o-bot** _Rockā€™em, Sockā€™em Robots_ Base Rarity: Ultra-Rare Troop Type: Mech Troop Role: Warrior **Command: Attack** _Explode all Red Gems. Deal [Magic + 4] damage to the first Enemy, boosted by my Armor. Thereā€™s a 10% chance to self destruct. [3:1]_ Trait #1: Deep Strength _Gain 7 Attack when attacking Delves._ Trait #2: Repair _Gain 1 Armor on 4 or 5 Gem matches._ Trait #3: Armored _Reduce damage from Skulls by 25%._ An exploder that can do damage. Hmmā€¦ 1. **Destruct-o-bot** _What does this button do?_ Base Rarity: Epic Troop Type: Dwarf, Mech Troop Role: Assassin _Deal [Magic + 3] damage to an Enemy, with a 50% chance to deal triple damage. Thereā€™s a 10% chance to self destruct._ Mana Color: Red, Yellow Mana Cost: 13 Trait #1: Deep Shield _Gain 9 Armor when attacking Delves._ Trait #2: Repair _Gain 1 Armor on 4 or 5 Gem matches._ Trait #3: Armored _Reduce damage from Skulls by 25%._ 1. **Tink Steamwhistle** _Iā€™m a little teapot._ Base Rarity: Legendary Troop Type: Dwarf, Mech Troop Role: Warmaster **Dwarven Ingenuity** _Give [Magic + 1] Armor and Life to all Allies, boosted by Red Gems. Summon 1-3 Tinker Town Bots. [1:1]_ Mana Color: Yellow, Brown Mana Cost: 15 Trait #1: Deep Vitality _Gain 9 Life when attacking Delves._ Trait #2: Fortitude _Immune to Stun, Poison, Disease, Death Mark and Devour._ Trait #3: Flux Capacitor _Conjure an Electrostorm when my turn begins._ Iā€™m assuming it functions like Holy St. Astra, which should be useful. Iā€™m assuming Electrostorm is a Red/Yellow storm. This is going to be a very interesting delve. Deathless pure faction probably isnā€™t going to happen. Iā€™m thinking Smash-o-bot, Smash-o-bot, Detect-o-bot, Tink Steamwhistle (faction banner) or Smash, Smash, Tink, Tink (faction banner). I like destruct-o-bot and Iā€™m sure Iā€™ll see it eventually in my run, but I want Tink to be unblocked until it fills, preferablyā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 6:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9596 "2020-08-17T06:01:32Z")
for those that like to plan ahead: Eldrazhor faction spoilersā€¦ yes, already 1. **Deep Elven Rogue** _Not another roguelike._ Base Rarity: Rare Troop Type: Elf, Rogue Troop Role: Warlock **Dark Whisper** _Eliminate [Magic + 1] Attack from an Enemy, then inflict 3 random Status Effects._ Mana Color: Blue, Green Mana Cost: 12 Trait #1: Deep Shield _Gain 9 Armor when attacking Delves._ Trait #2: Dark Ancestry _Immune to Mana Drain, Silence, Faerie Fire, and Web._ Trait #3: Stealthy _Cannot be targeted by spells (unless there are no other targets)._ I like the flavor text lol. The spell itself should be very handy to prevent skull damage andā€¦ its stealthy. Yikes. 1. **Deep Huntsman** _Donā€™t buy him at the pet shop, heā€™s cheaper on the web._ Base Rarity: Ultra-Rare Troop Type: Elf, Beast Troop Role: Generator **Skittering Charge** _Explode [Magic + 1] Green or Purple Gems. Then Curse and Web the first Enemy._ Mana Color: Green, Brown Mana Cost: 13 Fun flavor text with Curse + Web on the first enemy. Explodes and guarantees a Tomb Spider on death. Wellā€¦ 1. **Deep Magus** _Otherwise known as the Deep Friar._ Base Rarity: Epic Troop Type: Elf, Mystic Troop Role: Mage **Glyph of Shadows** _Deal [(Magic / 2) + 1] damage to all Enemies. Then Curse or Web them all._ Mana Color: Yellow, Purple Mana Cost: 13 Trait #1: Deep Magic _Gain 5 Magic when attacking Delves._ Trait #2: Dark Ancestry _Immune to Mana Drain, Silence, Faerie Fire, and Web._ Trait #3: Spell Armor _Reduce damage from Spells by 25%._ Half-magic is really bad, but webbing all or cursing all is pretty dang strong. 1. **Matron Velenne** _Mother knows best._ Base Rarity: Legendary Troop Type: Elf Troop Role: Assassin **Queenā€™s Lament** _Deal [Magic + 1] damage to an Enemy. Thereā€™s a 10% chance to kill them, boosted by Cursed and Webbed Enemies. [4x]_ Mana Color: Green, Purple Mana Cost: 17 Trait #1: Deep Vitality _Gain 9 Life when attacking Delves._ Trait #2: Dark Ancestry _Immune to Mana Drain, Silence, Faerie Fire, and Web._ Trait #3: Dark Web _Curse and Web a random Enemy when matching 4 or more Gems._ Well, if the Widow Queen wasnā€™t used before, it really wonā€™t be now. Curse + Web combo on a 4/5 is nasty. Since you can curse before webbing with these troops, hitting 42% insta-kill rate is possible. (and less with less troops on their team) Part of me is tempted to say to run 1 of each, but weā€™ll see. Rather not think about it till after Tinkertown. ---
**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 8:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9597 "2020-08-17T08:23:42Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > Let the speculations begin. Preferably not talks about more monetization please. So for arena, it looks like: > [@TheIdleOne](#): > > Arena Weekend Will have a bar/tracker/rewards track that will fill: > [@TheIdleOne](#): > > Win Battles in Arena runs to collect Valor and earn rewards. And when it fills we will get: > [@TheIdleOne](#): > > You have earned enough Valor to receive a reward! # Guess there will be an arena week event, which will have bonus rewards for doing arena battles. It a bit unclear how Valor will be gained. if it will be flat on each battle, or if it will give more Valor with more battles complete in a single run, with a jackpot @ 8 victories and 0 loses. As for Tinker Town. Looks like RNG can screw you a lot, or give you a lot ā†’ Those 10% self-destructions can clear your boss room, and leave only legendary up (until he fills mana and refills his team with lower-leveled bots). But i can imagine, that most of successfull strategies will be focused on avoiding using your gnomes, without means to replace troops instantly. As RNG might as well make your troops hit that 10% selfdestruct on 1st cast, leaving your legendaries as prey. Iā€™d probably go Destructo + 3x Tink. Exploders arenā€™t realy a reliable troops for me. > [@TheIdleOne](#): > > Well, if the Widow Queen wasnā€™t used before, it really wonā€™t be now. Curse + Web combo on a 4/5 is nasty. Since you can curse before webbing with these troops, hitting 50% insta-kill rate is possible. I think you did wrong calculations there: > [@TheIdleOne](#): > > Thereā€™s a 10% chance to kill them, boosted by Cursed and Webbed Enemies. [4x] Algoritm for instakill looks like: 10 + (4x webbed troops + 4x cursed troops) so, 10 + (16 +16) = 42 as max. But it can also be like: 10 + (4x webbed/cursed troops), than it goes as 10 + 16 = 26% chance for instakill. If iā€™d guess it will be the last one, that will apply (26%) - especialy if you compare her to Lady Morana (base 10% with bonus 2% for purple gems) Guess team for this delve will be similiar to Crypt Keepers ā†’ use 4x of legendary and hope for few match4, and a bit of RNG on your side. Especialy that it looks like thereā€™s no tank in this faction ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 8:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9598 "2020-08-17T08:28:45Z")
> [@Sytro](#): > > I think you did wrong calculations there: oh my bad, wasnā€™t thinking straight. was half juggling the vault event while typing it out. your numbers look right > [@Sytro](#): > > Algoritm for instakill looks like: 10 + (4x webbed troops + 4x cursed troops) so, 10 + (16 +16) = 42 as max. But it can also be like: 10 + (4x webbed/cursed troops), than it goes as 10 + 16 = 26% chance for instakill. Iā€™m assuming itā€™ll act like King Bloodwood (each status effect is its own check on the boost) and be 42% ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 9:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9599 "2020-08-17T09:37:53Z")
I donā€™t think Iā€™d want to run Tinkertown without _at least_ two of the legendary to replenish units. As for the other two, anyoneā€™s guess, sort of moot if theyā€™re going to kill themselves. Not sure how I feel about Eldrazhor. Everything being Cursed+Webbed sounds like its just going to take a _long_ time. And/or instant-kill mechanics mightily resembles Crypt Keepers. ---
**Author:** ![SevenSidedBox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@SevenSidedBox](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SevenSidedBox)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 9:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9600 "2020-08-17T09:50:29Z")
> [@Sytro](#): > > Guess team for this delve will be similiar to Crypt Keepers ā†’ use 4x of legendary and hope for few match4, and a bit of RNG on your side. Especialy that it looks like thereā€™s no tank in this faction I donā€™t think thatā€™s the way to go with this delve. This faction doesnā€™t have a tank but it does have a troop that lowers attack. It honestly looks like a faction where having all four troops is actually a viable option. Lower the attack of the front troop to zero, curse and web them all, then pick them off one by one with the Matron (starting with the opposing Matron). With zero atk and zero magic (from web), the troops shouldnā€™t be able to do any real damage. ---
**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 12:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9601 "2020-08-17T12:16:40Z")
2x destructobot, 2x legendary.10% will be more like 90%, Iā€™m sure šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 12:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9602 "2020-08-17T12:19:45Z")
> [@Lorien1973](#): > > 10% will be more like 90%, Iā€™m sure šŸ™‚ 90% for player, 1% for AI ? šŸ˜‰ šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![xolid99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xolid99/32/66856_2.png) [@xolid99](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/xolid99)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9603 "2020-08-18T10:42:47Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > 1. **Matron Velenne** > _Mother knows best._ > > Base Rarity: Legendary > Troop Type: Elf > Troop Role: Assassin > > **Queenā€™s Lament** > _Deal [Magic + 1] damage to an Enemy. Thereā€™s a 10% chance to kill them, boosted by Cursed and Webbed Enemies. [4x]_ > > Mana Color: Green, Purple > Mana Cost: 17 > > Trait #1: Deep Vitality > _Gain 9 Life when attacking Delves._ > > Trait #2: Dark Ancestry > _Immune to Mana Drain, Silence, Faerie Fire, and Web._ > > Trait #3: Dark Web > _Curse and Web a random Enemy when matching 4 or more Gems._ > > Well, if the Widow Queen wasnā€™t used before, it really wonā€™t be now. Curse + Web combo on a 4/5 is nasty. Since you can curse before webbing with these troops, hitting 42% insta-kill rate is possible. (and less with less troops on their team) This troop looks like it is going to add more grief when facing L&D teams. So your impervious or death mark immune troops are now in line for L&D and Orbweaver teams have web in abundance. Lovely! ---
**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 12:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9604 "2020-08-18T12:40:49Z")
> [@xolid99](#): > > So your impervious or death mark immune troops are now in line for L&D and Orbweaver teams have web in abundance. Cleanse troops. L&D hasnā€™t been effective in GW in quite some time. Too many solid counters now. ---
**Author:** ![xolid99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xolid99/32/66856_2.png) [@xolid99](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/xolid99)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 12:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9605 "2020-08-18T12:56:53Z")
Yep, true, sure thereā€™s plenty of counters and is a different debate which has been done to (life and) death tbh. šŸ™‚ We donā€™t need web and curse on 4/5 gems in general, but if thatā€™s what they are doing, /shrug. It also has Dark Ancestry, so your best choice may be stunning it in general play. Maybe there will be more grief teams though. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9606 "2020-08-22T03:30:00Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > 1. **Matron Velenne** > _Mother knows best._ > > Base Rarity: Legendary > Troop Type: Elf > Troop Role: Assassin > > **Queenā€™s Lament** > _Deal [Magic + 1] damage to an Enemy. Thereā€™s a 10% chance to kill them, boosted by Cursed and Webbed Enemies. [4x]_ > > Mana Color: Green, Purple > Mana Cost: 17 > > Trait #1: Deep Vitality > _Gain 9 Life when attacking Delves._ > > Trait #2: Dark Ancestry > _Immune to Mana Drain, Silence, Faerie Fire, and Web._ > > Trait #3: Dark Web > _Curse and Web a random Enemy when matching 4 or more Gems._ As weird as it sounds, this troop might actually need a buff, because right now, its the least important part of Eldrazhor. 17 mana is no spring chicken. Faction troops: Green/Brown (exploder), Blue/Green (disabler), Yellow/Purple (status effect spreader/half damage AoE), Green/Purple (overpriced single target attacker, unless you happen to get the instakill) Matron is just so color blocked beyond oblivion unless you want to skip out on Web All or Curse All, or you place it in the 3rd slot, slowing down Deep Magus. I think you need Deep Magus to make Matron Velenne have any decent chance to instakillā€¦ Thereā€™s nothing that helps its curse + web 4th trait out either, leaving only random 4/5 matches in the wild that only occasionally occurs. On a related note, that Tomb Spider might be the MVP of this faction, when it spawns in. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280.md?page=474) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280.md?page=476)