# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280>\
**Category:** Spoilers\
**Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 1:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9446 "2020-07-13T01:41:14Z")

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2 very interesting things in the Language File Diff

| 10 | [KingdomTask22-2] | | Collect {0} Mythic troops from {Kingdom} |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 11 | [KingdomTask22-3] | | Upgrade {0} {Kingdom} troops to Elite Level {EliteLevel} |
| 12 | [KingdomTask23-3] | | Earn {0} Faction Renown in the Faction {Kingdom} |

| 15 | [SOULFORGE\_UNLOCK\_DEEDBOOK] | | Deed Books |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 16 | [SOULFORGE\_UNLOCK\_INGOTS\_AND\_DEEDS] | | Ingots and Deeds |

Im sure we’ll see more stuff soon…

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**Author:** ![covertmuffin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5daacb/32.png) [@covertmuffin123](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/covertmuffin123)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9447 "2020-07-13T02:10:54Z")

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Thanks for posting this. Using deeds to craft deedbooks sounds horrifying.

Very interesting that 2 mythics seems to be an “early” roadblock. I expect something like 2 troops medalled per level past 20.

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**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 2:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9448 "2020-07-13T02:59:47Z")

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I guess we’re not going to wait for the 3rd map to jump into Power 21+ after all.

Quite surprised that as close to release completion that the Underworld is, that we’re going to tie renown to Power now? Not enough players actually striving to push for delve 500 runs to warrant this?

Still, how many players are going to seriously have all of the Champion classes maxed at 100 for these requirements to even matter? A handful, at most?

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 3:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9449 "2020-07-13T03:12:31Z")

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I have to imagine that the faction renown task will be for 2000 renown (or maybe even less), not 2500. Given how players are trying to scrounge up all the available stats to make pure faction runs easier, gating those stats behind pure faction runs seems cruel.

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**Author:** ![alv-thanos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/alv-thanos/32/62164_2.png) [@alv-thanos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/alv-thanos)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 3:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9450 "2020-07-13T03:45:19Z")

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If a player has already 2 pets at level 20 (in some cases), most likely already got all the renown needed for a faction. Why attach renown in late power levels?  
Not counting some kingdoms with several cosmetic pets that someone may have chose to buy to max.

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**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9451 "2020-07-13T04:02:13Z")

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> [@alv-thanos](#):
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> If a player has already 2 pets at level 20 (in some cases), most likely already got all the renown needed for a faction. Why attach renown in late power levels?  
> Not counting some kingdoms with several cosmetic pets that someone may have chose to buy to max.

Every kingdom that has a Faction pet is supposed to have at least one cosmetic pet to max out instead.  
That’s by design for the current power levels.

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 4:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9452 "2020-07-13T04:04:23Z")

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> [@Lyrian](#):
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> Still, how many players are going to seriously have all of the Champion classes maxed at 100 for these requirements to even matter? A handful, at most?

Some of the kingdoms like Stormheim will see some advancement from most people. While a daunting task, not every Champion level needs to be 100 at the same time, only the ones reaching KP20.

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 4:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9453 "2020-07-13T04:07:40Z")

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> [@Grundulum](#):
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> I have to imagine that the faction renown task will be for 2000 renown (or maybe even less), not 2500

I could see them staggering them at different intervals at about 500 renown per kp level.

just a guess, its still super early

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**Author:** ![HounganAtLarge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hounganatlarge/32/28697_2.png) [@HounganAtLarge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HounganAtLarge)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 12:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9454 "2020-07-13T12:34:53Z")

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> [@Lyrian](#):
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> Still, how many players are going to seriously have all of the Champion classes maxed at 100 for these requirements to even matter? A handful, at most?

GOW.db’s front page is filled with players who have maxed out all classes, and there’s 80 on a page. And that’s just those who bothered to link their account. I’m sure there are more who have’nt.

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**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 1:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9455 "2020-07-13T13:45:27Z")

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> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> |11|[KingdomTask22-3]||Upgrade {0} {Kingdom} troops to Elite Level {EliteLevel}

Brutal. 10 chars.

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**Author:** ![Smash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/smash/32/5574_2.png) [@Smash](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smash)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 3:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9456 "2020-07-13T15:07:27Z")

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I had to go check, Im close (yet so far).

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**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9457 "2020-07-13T15:45:31Z")

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> [@Lorien1973](#):
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> Brutal. 10 chars.

So, what you’re telling me is this is the next-level “Try This One, Geoff” achievement? 😝

Seriously though, it’s plausible there will be bronze, silver, and gold versions of this task as kingdom Power rises.

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**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9458 "2020-07-13T15:57:33Z")

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I’m ~75 for that one. But they are not kingdom dispersed 😕 - most likely.

The way it’s coded makes it apparent there will be varying levels (b/s/g) - nonetheless.

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**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9459 "2020-07-13T15:59:51Z")

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This week for me…if my math is right. Maybe Monday.

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**Author:** ![MeghatroN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/meghatron/32/50678_2.png) [@MeghatroN](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MeghatroN)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9460 "2020-07-13T18:32:26Z")

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Hello, guys. How much time.  
How is your anxiety about the new Update? I’m here in expectation. In time, could someone tell me what some troops say when they use their skills? I can understand some, others cannot. If someone can get a glimpse of the lines, it would help me a lot, even if out of curiosity.  
For example, what does Egg Thief say? Among others, of course.  
If anyone can help me, thank you.

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**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9461 "2020-07-13T18:40:35Z")

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> [@MeghatroN](#):
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> For example, what does Egg Thief say?

“He didn’t need it anyway” 😆

I didn’t even know the troops had lines! 😲

I’m excited for the update, I like new things 😃

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**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 11:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9462 "2020-07-13T23:30:52Z")

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> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> |[KingdomTask22-3]||Upgrade {0} {Kingdom} troops to Elite Level {EliteLevel}

I predicted this one, I’m so glad now that I upgraded 3 troops from each kingdom when going for geoff achievement. 😃

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**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9463 "2020-07-14T02:58:40Z")

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@MeghatroN tbh, and call me a party pooper, but that’s not really related to discussing spoilers, or any previous posts. Try gowdb/taransworld.

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**Author:** ![Mana\_Surgeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mana_surgeon/32/55678_2.png) [@Mana\_Surgeon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mana_Surgeon)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 5:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9464 "2020-07-14T05:24:42Z")

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> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> 1. **Hive Mind**  
> Base Rarity: Legendary  
> Troop Type: Monster  
> Troop Role: Support
> 
> **Mind Crush**  
> _Steal [Magic + 1] Magic from an Enemy and shift it to a random Skill on all Allies. [1:1]_
> 
> Mana Color: Yellow, Purple  
> Mana Cost: 15
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> Trait #1: Deep Magic  
> _Gain 5 Magic when attacking Delves._
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> Trait #2: Spell Armor  
> _Reduce damage from Spells by 25%._
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> Trait #3: Psychic Pulse  
> _Give all Monster Allies 2 to a random Skill when matching 4 or more Gems._
> 
> It’ll be solid with potions, potentially mean/powerful with 2 of them on a delve team, but may not be super useful outside of delves/potion. 3rd trait is unremarkable, but not the worst. Would stack with the Dervish hero class for more Monster Madness though.

Kudos for a different type of troop, potentially interesting for scaling content outside of faction. If it stole from magic+another skill, it would be flat out good.

I get that they need to do something with the third trait to not overlap with Dervish, but wish they could make it more fun, kind of stinks as-is. Monster typing limits them to some extent (5 to a random skill would be an improvement, but imagine that+Dervish on an Arachnaean Weaver team), but maybe something like 50% chance for 2 to all skills would split the difference?

Also not crazy about the upcoming weapons either. Too dependent on enemy team composition, and lethal damage is whatever - the only interesting boosters for it tend to be on Mythics. Hammer of Force is the closest to being usable, since it creates a self-feeding storm on cast, but it still needs more.

Lastly, I haven’t seen it mentioned, I see no Mythics on the release calendar for the next few months (save Kurandara). Is the season/campaign going to be the only way new Mythics are going to be released going forward? What about non-faction Legendaries?

(Not that I think this would be a bad change necessarily; it’s arguably an improvement. Just seems like a big deal to sweep under the rug, as it seems is being done.)

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**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 5:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9465 "2020-07-14T05:37:56Z")

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> [@Mana\_Surgeon](#):
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> Lastly, I haven’t seen it mentioned, I see no Mythics on the release calendar for the next few months (save Kurandara). Is the season/campaign going to be the only way new Mythics are going to be released going forward? What about non-faction Legendaries?
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> (Not that I think this would be a bad change necessarily; it’s arguably an improvement. Just seems like a big deal to sweep under the rug, as it seems is being done.)

As far as we know, the regular mythic releases will continue as before. I think they’ve just been too busy with the update to prepare them. There is a “Lava Spirit Wolf” mythic on Taran’s world, with no info yet, I expect that’s the next mythic for August.

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