# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Spoilers\ **Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 462
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9326 "2020-06-17T16:06:35Z")
> [@UKresistance](#): > > Not sure how you could be the first. It was probably someone on Xbox since at the time we could buy unlimited daily gem deals. Not sure how you can doubt my claim when you have zero proof to say otherwise other than your speculation due to an existing exploit at the time. Feel free to post evidence of who you believe was first. Then I’ll bother to win the meaningless internet debate by finding the proof to my claim. Good luck. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9327 "2020-06-17T17:02:16Z")
> [@awryan](#): > > Not sure how you can doubt my claim when you have zero proof to say otherwise other than your speculation due to an existing exploit at the time. > > Feel free to post evidence of who you believe was first. Then I’ll bother to win the meaningless internet debate by finding the proof to my claim. Good luck. 😀 Well, you never even posted in the first xathenos crafted topic. Shame that you crafted it and got it in a legendary task a few days later. > [@First Xathenos crafted?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/first-xathenos-crafted/30427): > > So I just did it! Might not be the first one to do it, but the first to post here? ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9328 "2020-06-17T18:02:04Z")
> [@UKresistance](#): > > Well, you never even posted in the first xathenos crafted topic. Shame that you crafted it and got it in a legendary task a few days later. You probably should of read the comments. > [@First Xathenos crafted?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/first-xathenos-crafted/30427/18): > > Not even the first here. stuck_out_tongue But congrats still! 🤷‍♂️ > [@First Xathenos crafted?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/first-xathenos-crafted/30427/21): > > Congrats to @RiverSong Congrats as well to @awryan who looks to have been the first to post on the forum - apologies it was only in a guild recruitment thread and I have muted that category - also the post didn’t mention Xath by name so didn’t come up when I searched… ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9329 "2020-06-17T18:23:06Z")
Ok, so you weren’t the first to have crafted it. It was an Xbox player just as I thought. 🧐 > **[Dark Ritual achievement in Gems of War](https://www.trueachievements.com/a239401/dark-ritual-achievement)** > > How to unlock the Dark Ritual achievement in Gems of War: Unlock the Troop "Xathenos". This achievement is worth 40 Gamerscore. Etherfiend’s was not crafted, it was a growth pack reward. AlackofGravitas on the 15th MemoriesofFinal aka @TheIdleOne also beat you ---
**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9330 "2020-06-17T19:08:29Z")
The argument is “Whose Xathenos has gathered the most digital dust?” ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9331 "2020-06-17T22:32:44Z")
> [@UKresistance](#): > > Etherfiend’s was not crafted, it was a growth pack reward. Well if we’re counting bugs then I guess I was the first to have two. 😀 > [@UKresistance](#): > > AlackofGravitas on the 15th > MemoriesofFinal aka @TheIdleOne also beat you On a separate platform that according to you had an exploit at the time that allowed them to craft it faster than PC/Mobile. So by your own omission I was the first to craft it legitly. Good to know. Thanks. Great use of your time researching it. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 6:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9332 "2020-06-18T06:24:16Z")
> [@awryan](#): > > that allowed them to craft it faster than PC/Mobile. Its still crafted from in-game mechanics. Its no different than anyone else buying diamonds with real world cash. ---
**Author:** ![Vasilisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ea5d25/32.png) [@Vasilisk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vasilisk)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 7:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9333 "2020-06-18T07:55:25Z")
What’s all this bickering have to do with spoilers? Please consider others when posting here and please take it elsewhere if you feel the need to continue off topic discussions. Cheers ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 12:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9334 "2020-06-18T12:23:07Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > Its still crafted from in-game mechanics. Its no different than anyone else buying diamonds with real world cash. PC/Mobile could and can only buy 1 offer and use gems on the other offer each day. Was that the same on Xbox? I have no notion of the exploit. It is @UKresistance who credited the exploit in regards to Xbox players being able to craft Xathenos first. 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 12:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9335 "2020-06-18T12:24:32Z")
> [@Vasilisk](#): > > What’s all this bickering have to do with spoilers? > Please consider others when posting here and please take it elsewhere if you feel the need to continue off topic discussions. > Cheers Will since you replied to me, and didn’t DM like you suggested that I do. You should scroll up and see i was simply replying to questions proposed. Just like I’m answering your question. Bickering on the internet? Heavens no! 😱 ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 2:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9336 "2020-06-18T14:22:54Z")
So, trying to get this thread on track, has anybody noticed the legendary troop scheduled for July 20? It belongs to The Vault, which I somehow doubt we’ll get a kingdom event for to use event keys on. Maybe a Free/Elite Pass reward, considering that Kurandara/Shade of Kurandara have the same release date? Hopefully it’s not another gnome further diluting Vault rewards… ---
**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9337 "2020-06-18T16:36:55Z")
Could be a campaign reward, could be craftable. Definitely doesn’t sound like a gnome. I’m guessing it would be used in crafting one of the Kurandaras. ---
**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 7:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9338 "2020-06-18T19:31:48Z")
> [@mitamata](#): > > I’m guessing it would be used in crafting one of the Kurandaras. Speaking with **zero** knowledge of how the Kurandaras work (they aren’t on beta), ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/4/74d8e558e8150b8ce860b5dc91d5f177ebf5b387.png) These all release on the same day. To me, that screams being a crafting recipe using “troops”. IMO, Heart of Rage likely serves the same functional purpose as the Heart of Xathenos. ---
**Author:** ![Graeme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@Graeme](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Graeme)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9339 "2020-06-18T21:08:10Z")
So, next week’s new Raid troop is called Tuskor, when there is already another troop called Tuskar… Seems a bit unimaginative? 🤔 Might have been worse I guess, they could have gone with Tusky McTuskface. Oh wait… 😆 ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9340 "2020-06-18T21:29:00Z")
> [@Lyrian](#): > > These all release on the same day. To me, that screams being a crafting recipe using “troops”. > > IMO, Heart of Rage likely serves the same functional purpose as the Heart of Xathenos. We could even have a new long term troop mechanic, evolving troops into more powerful versions of themselves. Like Pokemon 🧐 If done right it could be really cool. I think I’d like it if each ten week campaign had a troop you evolve epic/legendary/mythic over the campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Graeme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@Graeme](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Graeme)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9341 "2020-06-18T21:42:55Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > | 9 | [SOULFORGE\_FORGE\_CONFIRMATION\_SPECIFIC\_TROOP] | | This recipe will consume any troops used as ingredients in the recipe! | > | --- | --- | --- | --- | > | 10 | Are you sure you want to craft x%1 %2? | | This recipie will consume a troop! | As previously posted here. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9342 "2020-06-18T23:06:49Z")
> [@awryan](#): > > New theory. > New game mode introduces troops like dooms. Only obtainable from that event. They will have a new Zuul’Goth/Xathenos troop in the forge. But instead of using Power Orbs or diamonds (because it’s meta to make old resources more useless.) These new event troops will be used to craft the new mythic troop. > Think of it as like using 6 Mythic dooms to craft the ultimate doom. “awRIGHT”? 😀 Zero beta access at the time of the post nor beta patch notes. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9343 "2020-06-18T23:47:22Z")
I think itll be in our inbox the morning of 5.0 release and shock everyone;) ---
**Author:** ![Mana\_Surgeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mana_surgeon/32/55678_2.png) [@Mana\_Surgeon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mana_Surgeon)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9344 "2020-06-20T00:16:02Z")
This seems like the likeliest explanation, based on what I’ve seen here. You can get vanilla Kurandara normally, and can spend a Heart of Rage and other stuff to “upgrade” it to Enraged Kurandara. Whether you’d actually want to, as Idle pointed out, is another question altogether. It would be a terrible decision to make a player give up their Kurandara to get the Enraged version, necessitating a player to get two copies of the Mythic to have a full troop list. I hope that’s not the way they go with it. ---
**Author:** ![EliteMasterEric](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/elitemastereric/32/59948_2.png) [@EliteMasterEric](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/EliteMasterEric)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2020, 12:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9345 "2020-06-20T00:37:23Z")
> [@Mana\_Surgeon](#): > > This seems like the likeliest explanation, based on what I’ve seen here. You can get vanilla Kurandara normally, and can spend a Heart of Rage and other stuff to “upgrade” it to Enraged Kurandara. Whether you’d actually want to, as Idle pointed out, is another question altogether. This seems incredibly unlikely. I don’t think the Enraged variant will be obtainable at all. Enraged Kurandara has Invulnerable instead of Impervious, it has the Boss troop type instead of no second type, and it has a trait that I would say is more suitable for a PvE context. I think Shade of Kurandara is unrelated, like Fist of Zorn. The Heart of Rage, on the other hand, seems like it will be part of Kurandara’s recipe. My guess is that it will be a Treasure troop (this is backed up by it being from The Vault). [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280.md?page=461) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280.md?page=463)