# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Spoilers\ **Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 457
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 8:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9225 "2020-05-25T08:04:08Z")
> [@EliteMasterEric](#): > > - **Kuranda** is a Striker Mythic from Urskaya. > - **Enraged Kuranda** … also a Striker Mythic from Urskaya. Pretty reasonable to assume it’s a troop that transforms after cast into a more powerful version of itself. Surprised that hasn’t been made yet. I could see one of them being downshifted to Legendary, though with the way Umberwolf is, I’m not really confident to make a guess either way. ---
**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9226 "2020-05-25T15:38:01Z")
Kuranda in Urskaya? “Kura” is “chicken” in Russian, so we must expect some brutal fighting chicken?.. ---
**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9227 "2020-05-25T17:12:15Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > Having a Battle Pass which is about completing tasks which then at an arbitrary point forces players to pay to progress (versus tempting a skip) Those are some solid counterpoints. The devil’s going to be in the details on how these passes are presented to players. Could be anything from reasonable to quite bad, depending on the sales pitch. We’ll have to see what final version looks like. > [@TheIdleOne](#): > > I’m actually starting to think they’ll break KP20 by October or something like that. Nah. There’s plenty of room before KP20+ is required. There’s 34 kingdoms out there, and with the slowing down of the release rate of troops, more time is being bought before Legendary-tier stars need to be released. KP20+ likely won’t be seen until the majority of kingdoms are 18 or 19 and that’s a long way away for a bunch of them. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9228 "2020-05-25T20:28:26Z")
Pretty big change for the upcoming faction that would be easy to overlook [Fell Dragon Egg] Spell Description: Disease a random Enemy. Transform into a Fell Roost Troop. changed to Spell Description: Disease a random Enemy. Summon a Fell Roost Troop. Now there’s a somewhat reliable comeback mechanic at the cost of the enemy AI having the same thing… I still think 500 Nocturnia is the biggest issue, but if FDE resummons another Nocturnia, it might be GG on the run. ---
**Author:** ![SevenSidedBox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@SevenSidedBox](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SevenSidedBox)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9229 "2020-05-25T21:39:33Z")
That’s a very good change actually. Unless it works differently now, summons are always much weaker than transforms in delves for the opponents. True damage in delves is a problem though. Even with the change, I still think Fell Roost is a difficult delve to faction complete with no potions. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9230 "2020-05-25T22:13:08Z")
I thought summons now entered at full strength. It’s one of the reasons my Stonesong Eyrie is still sitting at 2300 renown—because I can’t compete against an endless stream of level 250 or 500 opponents that summon more copies of themselves. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9231 "2020-05-25T22:29:05Z")
Its a weird combination of both that has no bloody consistency. Mirrored Halls has those wussy Copycats, but something like Primal Rift is normal strength if I remember correctly. or Silver Necropolis. (edit: I might be wrong on Primal Rift/Silver Necropolis. bad examples) Could just be a if it summons itself, then it comes in weaker? I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![SevenSidedBox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@SevenSidedBox](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SevenSidedBox)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9232 "2020-05-25T22:56:24Z")
I don’t think Primal Rift summons are full strength. Been a while but I remember being able to destroy the summoned Treants and Golem rather easily (when I wasn’t entangled). I wouldn’t have won that 500 delve without potions otherwise. Silver Necropolis, no idea. It’s my farming delve so couldn’t test it anyway. Stonesong Eyrie summons are based on traits. I think there is a difference if the summons come from a trait or from an ability. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9233 "2020-05-25T23:17:14Z")
@Grundulum (/@ others) There was a comment recently(-ish) from Kafka about traits and ~~spells~~ status effects (oops…) behaving differently… > [@Skull damage inconsistent](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skull-damage-inconsistent/63155/2): > > Traits work differently to status effects which is why Hunter’s Mark and Reflect work differently to Ice Armor and Revenge. This is currently working as intended. ~~I think that might have something to do with it 😕.~~ Idk, tbh. * * * > [@Things that make you angry while playing GoW](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/things-that-make-you-angry-while-playing-gow/44225/803): > > Trait summons are at level of the troop not its magic. See summon on death traits. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9234 "2020-05-25T23:22:28Z")
Thanks for trying to shed some light on this. I am still just as confused. I don’t want to add to the to-do list as the devs work to get 5.0 out the door (a fix is unlikely to make it in at this point even if it _is_ a bug), but I also want to get some clarification on what is intended behavior and what isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 11:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9235 "2020-05-25T23:24:37Z")
It would potentially be nice to have Web as a counterplay to trait summons, though! Bandits, Orbweaver (Bless would obviously still be an issue), Dragon Eggs, etc. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 11:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9236 "2020-05-25T23:34:53Z")
> [@SevenSidedBox](#): > > I don’t think Primal Rift summons are full strength. Been a while but I remember being able to destroy the summoned Treants and Golem rather easily (when I wasn’t entangled). I think you’re right, not Primal Rift. I’m not really keen on spending time to check, which sounds kinda bad. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 12:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9237 "2020-05-26T00:21:55Z")
didn’t bring it up before since I thought it was trivial, but maybe it isn’t **Basilisk** Spell Description: Deal [Magic + 2] true damage to an Enemy. If the Enemy is Poisoned, deal double damage. Then deal [Magic + 2] true damage again. If they are Stunned, deal double damage. to Spell Description: Deal [Magic + 1] true damage to an Enemy. If the Enemy is Poisoned, deal double damage. Then deal [Magic + 1] true damage again. If they are Stunned, deal double damage. Spell Cost: 16 → Spell Cost: 17 Magic: 7 → Magic: 5 The damage loss I can live with, though its pretty hefty. The 1 extra mana cost kinda kills it for me. ---
**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 12:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9238 "2020-05-26T00:45:29Z")
I don’t think the 1 mana increase is that significant. However, my concern is the “if poisoned, deal double damage” … at 50 magic… that is 102 true damage. In normal content; nothing will survive this. Then strike again for up to another 102 true damage. Would be a ton better, for most content, if the second hit went to another, random, target. Not sure this troop, while the true damage is staggering, has a lot of use scenarios. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 1:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9239 "2020-05-26T01:44:21Z")
We’re really not at the point of having 50 magic though unless you’re running dedicated kingdom teams. Even if we did reach 50 magic, chances are we’ll have more life to compensate for that anyways I get +23 magic before medals, Basilisk would have 6 damage (5 base+1), and my troops not put into a team has around 90-100+ life. At that point, there’s a lot of other troops with gimmicky chances of one shot kills or a player could just use Scorpius or Zuul’Goth. There’s even Megavore that doesn’t see that much play that strips ALL armor from ALL enemies AND has 2 \* Magic AND a high base damage and that still doesn’t see much play or fanfare. I don’t think this troop is as amazing as people make it appear and any tuning downwards will make it even less viable. ---
**Author:** ![EliteMasterEric](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/elitemastereric/32/59948_2.png) [@EliteMasterEric](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/EliteMasterEric)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 5:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9240 "2020-05-27T05:55:07Z")
> [@mitamata](#): > > How would you guess **Spirit of Kuranda** fits in? A third form? Change to spawn on death? Based on rarity, it’s probably an unrelated troop, like Fist of Zorn to Shade of Zorn. > [@TheIdleOne](#): > > There’s even Megavore that doesn’t see that much play that strips ALL armor from ALL enemies AND has 2 \* Magic AND a high base damage and that still doesn’t see much play or fanfare. Megavore can’t reliably one-shot in PvP, and it costs 24. Scorpius is better in most cases, but Basilisk can boost off Stun or Poison, meaning that unless the opponent has Fortitude or Impervious, you can likely apply one or the other to get probably close to one shotting. Plus, you can target, which Scorpius can’t, and again it costs less. Not saying it’s OP but it’ll be fun to mess with. ---
**Author:** ![Neritar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/neritar/32/39263_2.png) [@Neritar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Neritar)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 8:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9241 "2020-05-27T08:02:43Z")
[SOULFORGE\_FORGE\_CONFIRMATION\_SPECIFIC\_TROOP] - This recipie will consume a troop! I like this, especially the word “specific” . ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 8:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9242 "2020-05-27T08:11:03Z")
part of me wishes you could break down a troop for medals of the same rarity… ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 8:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9243 "2020-05-27T08:31:47Z")
That’d be cool, but I can’t see that happening. Any troop you had seven or more copies of could immediately be gold-medalled (souls permitting). Heck, I have 14 Krystenaxes somehow, which would be enough to gold _two_ legendary troops if the exchange rate were 1-1. And my thousands upon thousands of lower-rarity troops would mean an insta-gold for pretty much anything that doesn’t come out of a VIP chest—and quite a few troops that do. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/9244 "2020-05-27T09:28:34Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > part of me wishes you could break down a troop for medals of the same rarity… Tokens are more realistic. But people will bitch because they disenchanted extra copies of over 4. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280.md?page=456) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280.md?page=458)