# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280>\
**Category:** Spoilers\
**Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Doll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/doll/32/69173_2.png) [@Doll](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doll)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 6:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8678 "2019-11-26T06:10:47Z")

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**Barbarian**  
Trait #3: Barbaric Fury  
_Gain 3 Attack when matching Red Gems._  
If that trait stays… 😬

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 6:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8679 "2019-11-26T06:33:28Z")

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wow… the orc class might be the worst class in the game

edit: they changed the nice sounding Ice Rift to … Frostfire Keep. Eh.

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 9:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8680 "2019-11-26T09:59:09Z")

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> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> The next legendary Krampus can submerge an enemy troop, which sounds really weird.

I was actually wondering whether the person setting up the spell intended to pick “Stun” and accidentally selected the adjacent “Submerge”.

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**Author:** ![ChunkyMono](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/chunkymono/32/69308_2.png) [@ChunkyMono](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ChunkyMono)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8681 "2019-11-26T13:28:29Z")

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> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> Wow… the orc class might be the worst class in the game

Probably because they waited 5+ years to come out with it…

1st position with Root Trap and 20% Dodge might be ok if enemy doesn’t have Cedric medal(s). And there weren’t dozens of better options for 1st position. I doubt Artema’s Dexterous (40%) would add enough survivability. 65% ‘Ignore all wounds (skulls)’ might.

I liked your trait ideas. There are still 73 days until 07 Feb; plenty of time to fix it. Except there will most likely be plenty of bugs to fix with future updates. Any word on that Vash’dagon in delve bug? Just saying.

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**Author:** ![Mana\_Surgeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mana_surgeon/32/55678_2.png) [@Mana\_Surgeon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mana_Surgeon)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8682 "2019-11-26T23:22:47Z")

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That was my thought too (or if matches were allowed to occur between each round of creation, uniquely to Vespera), there’s no other possible justification for the massive nerfing that has been meted out to the poor genie queen.

Even then, at 26 mana cost, I don’t think she’d be worth using for small boosts to random stats plus some board control. Especially with that trait set.

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**Author:** ![Mana\_Surgeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mana_surgeon/32/55678_2.png) [@Mana\_Surgeon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mana_Surgeon)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8683 "2019-11-28T00:55:26Z")

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It feels like a Friday, so I will get a jump on next week’s troops. Gravitas is another Whitehelm troop dependent on its target being a daemon or undead; pity, as we could use a targeted blue mana drainer. Despite having the useful holy armor trait, it seems underpowered for an epic in this day and age.

And then there’s Shahbanu Vespera. Losing the buff to all ally stats just killed this troop, who is now arguably worse than Stonehammer (in terms of mythics whose sole job is mana generation).

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**Author:** ![MeghatroN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/meghatron/32/50678_2.png) [@MeghatroN](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MeghatroN)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 1:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8684 "2019-11-28T01:22:05Z")

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Can someone tell me a bit about Baited Pet Gnome and what is the difference between him and Pet Gnome?

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**Author:** ![aluoaniki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@aluoaniki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/aluoaniki)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 3:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8685 "2019-11-28T03:43:20Z")

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It won’t escape, this is for sure.  
On top of that, supposedly, pets it gives will narrow down to a set of pets, not the entire pool.

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**Author:** ![SevenSidedBox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@SevenSidedBox](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SevenSidedBox)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 4:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8686 "2019-11-28T04:26:35Z")

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> [@aluoaniki](#):
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> On top of that, supposedly, pets it gives will narrow down to a set of pets, not the entire pool.

If that is true, I wonder what the criteria is going to be. A soulforge style rotation seems too complicated, a specific color seems too broad, the kingdom of the week might be too limiting. Whatever it is, I actually wouldn’t mind if you could get the cosmetic pets from those.

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**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 4:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8687 "2019-11-28T04:41:40Z")

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> [@MeghatroN](#):
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> Can someone tell me a bit about Baited Pet Gnome and what is the difference between him and Pet Gnome?

Where do you see what we’re getting a new gnome?

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**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 5:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8688 "2019-11-28T05:04:07Z")

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> [@awryan](#):
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> Where do you see what we’re getting a new gnome?

In spoilers from Taran, as usual.

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**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 5:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8689 "2019-11-28T05:08:17Z")

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> [@Nullings](#):
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> In spoilers from Taran, as usual.

I checked before asking, but checked again. Thanks. I skipped over it on first check.

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**Author:** ![EliteMasterEric](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/elitemastereric/32/59948_2.png) [@EliteMasterEric](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/EliteMasterEric)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 7:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8690 "2019-11-28T07:36:22Z")

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Okay folks, looks like we’re in for another wild ride! Datamining has revealed a bunch of new localization strings, so get ready to spoil the update! There’s not a ton here, but what’s available is interesting.

And yes, this does mean that 4.7 is coming **pretty soon**. No idea when though.

> **Version 4.7**
>
> > **By viewing this spoiler I hereby agree to deprive Salty of her delicious coffee, leaving her tired and sad during future streams.**
> >
> > **Achievements**
> > 
> > This pissed me off just reading it, lol. Screw completionists, amirite?
> > 
> > - Try this one, Geoff
> > - Use Medals to upgrade 100 Troops to the Gold Elite Level
> > 
> > **New Resources**
> > 
> > Writs aren’t the only thing coming in the update… Maybe this is the pet rescue rework that I’ve been nagging for?
> > 
> > - Writs
> > - Use writs to craft deeds in the Soulforge.
> > 
> > - Gnome Bait
> > - Pet Gnome Bait
> > - Guarantee a Pet Gnome in the next PVP match (if there is no existing Pet Rescue running).
> > 
> > **Guild Reworks**
> > 
> > We already know this stuff.
> > 
> > - Epic Blue Tasks
> > - Epic Green Tasks
> > - Epic Red Tasks
> > - Epic Yellow Tasks
> > - Epic Purple Tasks
> > - Epic Brown Tasks
> > 
> > **Bundles**
> > 
> > Looks like the Guild bundles are being reworked. I hope Gnome Bait isn’t P2W.
> > 
> > - BUNDLE\_GUILD\_HERO\_DESC
> > - Orb of Clans & 4x 25 Gem Gifts to give away
> > 
> > - BUNDLE\_GUILD\_CHAMPION\_DESC
> > - 200 Gems, 2x Orb of Clans & 7x 25 Gem Gifts to give away
> > 
> > - BUNDLE\_GUILD\_ELITE\_DESC
> > - Pet Gnome Bait, 500 Gems, 4x Orb of Clans & 15x 25 Gem Gifts to give away
> > 
> > **New Pet Effects**
> > 
> > EXCUSE ME? Now that’s interesting.
> > 
> > - PET\_GNOME\_BONUS
> > - +%1% Treasure Gnome Chance
> > 
> > - PET\_MAPTURNS\_BONUS
> > - +%1 Treasure Hunt Turns
> > 
> > **Other Changes**
> > 
> > You get seals for doing Delves now? That’s a positive change. The changes also include quest dialog for upcoming factions and hero classes, which I won’t list here.
> > 
> > - SEALS\_TASK\_WIN\_DELVE
> > - Complete a Delve

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 7:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8691 "2019-11-28T07:44:58Z")

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> [@EliteMasterEric](#):
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> > **Achievement Spoiler**
> >
> > Try this one, Geoff
> > 
> > - Use Medals to upgrade 100 Troops to the Gold Elite Level

Dear god, you’re kidding me?

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**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 7:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8692 "2019-11-28T07:49:47Z")

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> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> Dear god, you’re kidding me?

I assume there’s 100 common troops in the game. The only thing that makes it possible.  
Do I have to count or is the way to check? Lol

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**Author:** ![covertmuffin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5daacb/32.png) [@covertmuffin123](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/covertmuffin123)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 7:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8693 "2019-11-28T07:49:49Z")

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That’s actually unbelievable. I have absolutely no idea how multiple people agreed that that was a good idea.

How many hours does this take if you only do commons? 300 Cedric medals.

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 7:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8694 "2019-11-28T07:50:27Z")

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> [@awryan](#):
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> I assume there’s 100 common troops in the game. The only thing that makes it possible.  
> Do I have to count or is the way to check? Lol

101 common  
133 rare  
158 ultra rare  
213 epic  
102 legendary  
46 mythic

cross referenced on gowdb, so I’m not 100% certain on its accuracy.

Admittedly, commons/rares/ultra-rares aren’t that difficult, but… F.

Also, think of the soul cost.

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**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 7:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8695 "2019-11-28T07:50:56Z")

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> [@covertmuffin123](#):
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> That’s actually unbelievable. I have absolutely no idea how multiple people agreed that that was a good idea.

Everyone in that room has 10 medals combined tops. Assuming there was 10 devs in the room.

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**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 7:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8696 "2019-11-28T07:54:58Z")

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> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> Also, think of the soul cost.

So I’ll have 6 million instead of 12 million.

 ![Screenshot_20191128-015144](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/2/d20ff4d1af7a037061d8f4a8f7c89122d0f13e5a.jpeg)  
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**Author:** ![Live](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/live/32/40596_2.png) [@Live](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Live)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 7:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8697 "2019-11-28T07:55:02Z")

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Lets wait at least until Update 5, they already told us, this current implementation is just the basis.

Last hope…

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