# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Spoilers\ **Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 418
**Author:** ![Voq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/voq/32/54089_2.png) [@Voq](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Voq)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8435 "2019-09-23T20:06:03Z")
He comes with Arcane Forest (green/brown), matching the colors he uses. ---
**Author:** ![Mana\_Surgeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mana_surgeon/32/55678_2.png) [@Mana\_Surgeon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mana_Surgeon)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8436 "2019-09-23T20:13:21Z")
My bad, yes you’re right. ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 9:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8437 "2019-09-23T21:27:07Z")
> [@Mana\_Surgeon](#): > > Interesting. Didn’t realize event stat bonuses dictated troop selection THAT much during GW. It doesn’t…usually… but stormheim giants is ‘feasible’ without the bonus. With bonus, it becomes interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 9:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8438 "2019-09-24T09:56:17Z")
> [@Mana\_Surgeon](#): > > Misinfo, disregard. Somehow I was making this same mistake (or a similar one): I kept looking at the thing on Tarans and thought it was a mono-blue common. Which I don’t do for the others! ---
**Author:** ![Voq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/voq/32/54089_2.png) [@Voq](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Voq)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 11:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8439 "2019-09-24T11:43:20Z")
I did that too 😮. ---
**Author:** ![Mana\_Surgeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mana_surgeon/32/55678_2.png) [@Mana\_Surgeon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mana_Surgeon)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 9:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8440 "2019-09-27T21:27:13Z")
I’m chalking it up to great minds thinking alike, and leaving it at that 😉 In the meantime, the lineup in store next week looks to send September off with a bang. What we have is a 3-course meal for players: Appetizer: Corrupt Magus is the most exciting rare-level troop we’ve gotten in a while, giving players a 9-mana aimable curse to pair with High King Irongut. Gruz we hardly knew ye (Corrupt Magus is faster and does more damage than the sorry Darkstone Legendary). The event troop Ahrimas has more damage potential, but without the curse is limited to early-player utility outside of events (where he’s still one of the better epic-level single-target damagers). Main Course: The Wild Court faction, with Wendigo specifically being a great addition. Passive Hunter’s Mark has long been one of my favorite hero class abilities, and getting it on a strong AoE damage Legendary troop that boosts on Hunter’s Marks is going to be fun. Let’s also not forget the bless all allies on enemy death, which gives players a major tool against any/all status effects. Desert (which the unlucky will be forced to skip): The Gray King will at the very least be a good, unique Mythic to throw into the mix. He provides significant, boostable true damage and crippling status effects to whatever enemy troops the player chooses. I’m hesitant to label him top tier this early, as I think his color-based spell effect will impose hard decisions at times between optimal board control and troop targeting, and Undead typing will limit his speed. But he’s going to be pretty good, and I’m excited to see what kinds of teams people come up with using him. (I will say, I’m not thrilled with Undead’s type-based stat booster being bound to a Mythic. Yes, Wulfgarok set the precedent for this, but Wargare are more niche than Undead.) ---
**Author:** ![EliteMasterEric](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/elitemastereric/32/59948_2.png) [@EliteMasterEric](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/EliteMasterEric)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8441 "2019-10-03T22:49:13Z")
New spoilers! **TROOPS** - Upcoming Mythic: GenieQueen! Salty will definitely love this one. - Guardian of the Fields has no spell yet but it’s an ultra-rare that starts with 50% mana. - All the other changes are localization and colors, which I personally don’t think are too helpful. **CLASSES** - The Slayer class has traits now! Grudge (Gain 1 Attack when an enemy casts), Bloodlust (Gain Enraged when an enemy dies), and Brutal Strike (Inflict Bleed on all Enemies when an Enemy dies.). Fireblade makes this class at least an interesting concept, but a lack of 50% starting mana and a lack of other useful talents makes me sad. Brutal Strike is pretty bad though, why do the devs overestimate Bleed so much? **OTHER** - Nothing interesting in the weapon or kingdom or pet changes. Additionally, one point I want to make: > [@Mana\_Surgeon](#): > > Main Course: The Wild Court faction, with Wendigo specifically being a great addition. The thing I’m most excited about in Wild Court is that we finally get a ++Green -Red banner! ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8442 "2019-10-03T23:06:29Z")
> [@EliteMasterEric](#): > > Brutal Strike is pretty bad though, why do the devs overestimate Bleed so much? they’re probably balancing around newer players and assuming its always 4 stacks of bleed… I hate on enemy death, personally. ---
**Author:** ![Mana\_Surgeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mana_surgeon/32/55678_2.png) [@Mana\_Surgeon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mana_Surgeon)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 11:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8443 "2019-10-03T23:57:13Z")
Except its +Red-Blue, isn’t it? 😕 (EDIT: and Amanithrax has the combo you’re wanting?) Yeah the Slayer trait would be disappointing if that’s all it is. In fairness, I have no idea how viable it is to get 3-4 stacks of bleed on an opposing team with the troop options we have (let alone if such a thing is actually worth trying for), so maybe it’s better in practice than in theory? ---
**Author:** ![EliteMasterEric](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/elitemastereric/32/59948_2.png) [@EliteMasterEric](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/EliteMasterEric)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 11:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8444 "2019-10-03T23:57:47Z")
Okay, new revelations. Looks like Taran’s World is missing a couple things (I contacted him about it). We also have the following info: **MIRRORED HALLS** - Doppleganger: Transform into an Enemy, and Curse them. Stealthy. - Copycat: Create 10 Gems of an Ally’s mana color and summon a copy of them. Air Link. - Glass Golem: Explode a Gem, give a random ally Reflect for each Skull destroyed, gain armor. Armored and Mana Shield. - Mirror Queen: Deal (Magic + 4 + 6 x Reflected Allies) to a single enemy, with a 50% chance to summon that enemy. Trait puts Reflect on a random ally on 4+ matches. These effects make for fun troops but an abysmal faction experience. I really hope something gets done about this. I really want to know what happens if you use Doppleganger or Mirrored Queen against a Boss troop like Zuul’Goth? That’d be interesting! Additionally, information on 4.6.0 is in the game files. I put this in an expanding box and strongly encourage people to wait until Monday when the preview stream hits, it’ll be cooler to learn about them then. > **4.6.0** > > Are you sure? You’ll make Salty cry! 😭 😭 😭 > > > **I'm Sure** > > > > Okay, here goes: > > > > Tokens, Badges, and Medals are three tiers of a new set of items. Equipping them applies an effect similar to traits and talents. > > > > Keep in mind there are a LOT LOT LOT of unknowns (Must the Hero be on the team? Is it available in all game modes? How are Tokens obtained?) so please keep your thoughts of “this is overpowered!” to a minimum and take this info with a grain of salt (since it is preliminary). > > > > Three Tokens combine into the corresponding Badge, and (SPECULATION) Three Badges combine into one Medal, so 9 Badges per medal. (Like that they’re using the SoulForge for more things now!) > > > > Here’s a list: > > > > - Token of Gaard: Combine 3 to make a Badge of Gaard > > - Badge of Gaard: +2 Armor for all troops > > - Medal of Gaard: +8 Armor for all troops > > - Token of Yasmine: Combine 3 to make a Badge of Yasmine > > - Badge of Yasmine: +2 Life for all troops > > - Medal of Yasmine: +8 Life for all troops > > - Token of Cedric: Combine 3 to make a Badge of Cedric > > - Badge of Cedric: +10% chance to Cleanse each Troop when my turn begins > > - Medal of Cedric: +40% chance to Cleanse each Troop when my turn begins > > - Token of Aranaea: Combine 3 to make a Badge of Aranaea > > - Badge of Aranaea: +1 Attack for all troops > > - Medal of Aranaea: +4 Attack for all troops > > - Token of Anu: Combine 3 to make a Badge of Anu > > - Badge of Anu: +5% Starting Mana > > - Medal of Anu: +20% Starting Mana > > - Token of Nysha: Combine 3 to make a Badge of Nysha > > - Badge of Nysha: +1 Magic for all troops > > - Medal of Nysha: +4 Magic for all troops > > > > So we have 6 types; one for each skill, a Cleanse, and a starting mana. Depending on how the three slots we saw on stream can be used and in what combinations, the latter two will likely be the most useful. > > > > A lot of other data is available in the localization files, but with very little context: > > > > - Who’s the Boss: Collect your first Boss Chest in Explore > > - Medal Not in the Affairs of Wizards: Equip your first Badge or Medal > > - Full Medal Alchemist: Award your first Medal to a Troop > > - Explore Update: Additional trophies for the Explore Update > > - Medals > > - Press to Evolve these Badges… > > - Press to Evolve these Medals… > > - You can activate up to %1 Global Buffs from your Badges and Medals > > - > > - > > - > > - Increasing the Elite Level will provide bonus Stats for this Troop. The Stats displayed are based on the Role of the Troop. > > - Medals of %1 and Higher give the best chance! > > - Award up to 3 Medals to this troop for a chance to upgrade it > > - Increase Skills for your Role > > - You must fully level, trait, and ascend a troop before it can receive Medals. > > - Collecting 3 Tokens of the same type will evolve into the related Badge. The Badge will then provide a useful effect. > > - Equip this Badge to get the Effect noted on the bottom of the card. 3 Badges of the same type will combine automatically to evolve into the related Medal. > > - Equip this Medal to get the Effect noted on the bottom of the card. Medals can also be used to Enhance troops once they are fully leveled and traited. > > - Tokens can be evolved into Badges. Badges can then be evolved into Medals. Use the Explore mode in each kingdom to search for Tokens. > > - You can select a Token learn more about its effect once it evolves into a Badge or Medal. > > - You now have a Badge! Let’s equip it! > > - Select the Badge you have gained to equip it and activate its Effect! > > - This troop is at fully leveled, traited and ascended, so you have unlocked the ability to award it Medals! > > - You are about to spend a Medal which you currently have equipped! This action will unequip this medal.\nDo you want to continue? > > > > > > > > These descriptions cast a LOT of doubt on how the system works. We don’t have numbers or context. I’d recommend not getting too crazy with your assumptions or critiques until Monday. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8445 "2019-10-04T00:15:38Z")
> [@EliteMasterEric](#): > > - Who’s the Boss: Collect your first Boss Chest in Explore > - Medal Not in the Affairs of Wizards: Equip your first Badge or Medal > - Full Medal Alchemist: Award your first Medal to a Troop I’m patiently waiting for 5k gamerscore so they can do away with Achievements. ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8446 "2019-10-04T00:18:13Z")
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how great the “Full Medal Alchemist” achievement title is? ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 12:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8448 "2019-10-04T00:24:06Z")
> [@EliteMasterEric](#): > > - Doppleganger: Transform into an Enemy, and Curse them. Stealthy. > - Copycat: Create 10 Gems of an Ally’s mana color and summon a copy of them. Air Link. > - Glass Golem: Explode a Gem, give a random ally Reflect for each Skull destroyed, gain armor. Armored and Mana Shield. > - Mirror Queen: Deal (Magic + 4 + 6 x Reflected Allies) to a single enemy, with a 50% chance to summon that enemy. Trait puts Reflect on a random ally on 4+ matches. I’m kinda not wanting to see this in delve format, at all. I guess just resummon and reflect everything, since there’s not much of anything except obnoxious between those 4. ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 12:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8449 "2019-10-04T00:32:30Z")
> [@Saltypatra](#): > > Can we just take a moment to appreciate how great the “Full Medal Alchemist” achievement title is? No, because full metal alchemist never made an sense. It was like a haunted suit of armor wasteland magic weird Japan just don’t get. ---
**Author:** ![Eminai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58f4c7/32.png) [@Eminai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eminai)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8450 "2019-10-04T00:40:47Z")
“Full Medal Alchemist” is great, but I think I like “Medal not in the affairs of wizards” even better. ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 12:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8451 "2019-10-04T00:42:55Z")
> [@EliteMasterEric](#): > > I really want to know what happens if you use Doppleganger or Mirrored Queen against a Boss troop like Zuul’Goth? That’d be interesting! I’m pretty sure anything that summons or transforms a “copy” just summons that troop ID to your team, with the same stipulations as normal summoning and user transform, as this is how every other summon and transform works, including stuff like Sunbird’s spell, Infernal King’s trait, etc. For summoning, you’d then get a base rarity level-capped (assuming you have enough magic) version of them with no traits enabled. So Boss Zuul would be immune to lethal damage, but your “copy” wouldn’t be. For transforming, they’d then be level 1 with no traits at their base rarity. In both instances, you’d get your kingdom bonus stats tacked onto the troop’s base stats. This is the most likely outcome because it prevents adding a lot of code to handle these special cases. The spoiler stuff on the new features looks interesting , unless it happens to be a hard time gated with a very low effort barrier and zero influence system to guide what you get, which I hope it isn’t, except deeds exist as a constant reminder that this is a possibility. If it has a high effort barrier instead, it means I’ll be falling behind, but I’m fine with that, unless its _absurdly_ high (read: dozens of hours of grinding _start_ making headway in the system, it could take years to “finish” and I’d be fine with that too). I hope they stand by their stipulation for energy systems that they won’t make their way into explore. ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8452 "2019-10-04T00:43:14Z")
@UKresistance excuse you Full Metal Alchemist is an absolute masterpiece. (To be fair, it makes a lot more sense if you read the manga than watch the original anime. It has consistent, nuanced and evocative storytelling. I think it’s one of the most amazing series ever made in terms of overall narrative design and execution.) ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8453 "2019-10-04T00:45:13Z")
It isn’t like that as far as I can tell. We’ve got spoilers in the spoiler thread now lol. Someone mention Inception and we’re set. ---
**Author:** ![covertmuffin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5daacb/32.png) [@covertmuffin123](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/covertmuffin123)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 12:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8454 "2019-10-04T00:48:31Z")
Yeah, I don’t want to be that guy who complains about every pure faction delve (I’ve done 5 so far, and others are doable), but… It seems almost mathematically impossible to clear this without potions. The sheer amount of damage that you have to do to reflected troops means that you need to resummon at a much faster rate than the AI does. I guess I’ll save up and do this one with potions. The fullmetal alchemist pun makes up for it. ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8455 "2019-10-04T00:54:17Z")
@Saltypatra I probably just need a proper introduction to full metal alchemist series. But more importantly, we all appreciate the obscure puns and jokes. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280.md?page=417) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280.md?page=419)