# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280>\
**Category:** Spoilers\
**Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![HounganAtLarge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hounganatlarge/32/28697_2.png) [@HounganAtLarge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HounganAtLarge)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8395 "2019-09-04T12:06:19Z")

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I actually started to keep a log like you did, but I stopped when I saw i was getting screwed week after week, and all it was doing was pissing me off & hate the game.

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 12:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8396 "2019-09-04T12:18:23Z")

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> [@HounganAtLarge](#):
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> I actually started to keep a log like you did, but I stopped when I saw i was getting screwed week after week, and all it was doing was pissing me off & hate the game.

Keep going with the log. Really. It’s exceptionally hard to correctly gauge random events from memory, your brain is very good at nudging you towards the one conclusion you expect to find. I felt a long time like I was always getting the short end of the stick farming arcane/celestial traitstones, until I actually kept track.

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**Author:** ![HounganAtLarge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hounganatlarge/32/28697_2.png) [@HounganAtLarge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HounganAtLarge)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 12:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8397 "2019-09-04T12:24:52Z")

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Now that’s it’s the same for everyone, it’s kinda hard to keep the motivation. At least now I know i’m not getting it better or worse than anyone else.

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 12:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8398 "2019-09-04T12:28:30Z")

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> [@HounganAtLarge](#):
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> Now that’s it’s the same for everyone, it’s kinda hard to keep the motivation. At least now I know i’m not getting it better or worse than anyone else.

It still allows identifying trends, e.g. if the introduction of deed tasks has significantly decreased the appearance of gem tasks. Besides, I think the top task might still be picked individually.

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**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 12:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8399 "2019-09-04T12:41:02Z")

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> [@Fourdottwoone](#):
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> Besides, I think the top task might still be picked individually.

I can confirm that it is. A member had 150 purple troops task yesterday. He tagged everyone excitedly because he thought all of the AB was the same for everyone now.

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**Author:** ![HounganAtLarge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hounganatlarge/32/28697_2.png) [@HounganAtLarge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HounganAtLarge)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 1:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8400 "2019-09-04T13:06:01Z")

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Oh good. Nice to know I’m still getting reamed with that task.

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**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 1:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8401 "2019-09-04T13:09:33Z")

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> [@MeghatroN](#):
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> I saw some Deeds came on one of AB’s battle lines yesterday, but none came today. Does this mean that the Deeds will come randomly in AB? So will we have to be lucky enough to come one of the Deeds (6 different colors) along with the chance to come gold, souls, glory, shards, multi-color pet food and multi-color traitstones too?  
> I was a little frustrated, with a relatively small amount, and on rare and random days, it will take centuries to improve all our kingdoms.

That’s correct. The intention behind the system is that deeds given for free are up to random chance to appear on the AB, are random in color, and somewhat random (fixed amount by rarity of task rolled) in quantity. Yes, it’s going to be a frustrating experience.

And that’s where the flash offers come into play. They will allow players to buy specifically offered deeds to avoid the RNG of the AB.

> [@Fourdottwoone](#):
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> I think the top task might still be picked individually

Seconding AWRyan. It was stated on the dev Q&A stream that the top task is still randomly rolled for each player every day. The bottom three tasks are fixed for everyone.

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**Author:** ![MeghatroN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/meghatron/32/50678_2.png) [@MeghatroN](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MeghatroN)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 4:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8402 "2019-09-05T04:47:12Z")

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> [@Lyrian](#):
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> That’s correct. The intention behind the system is that deeds given for free are up to random chance to appear on the AB, are random in color, and somewhat random (fixed amount by rarity of task rolled) in quantity. Yes, it’s going to be a frustrating experience.
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> And that’s where the flash offers come into play. They will allow players to buy specifically offered deeds to avoid the RNG of the AB.

It makes me think of the idea of Gems becoming P2W. We are moving towards the moment when the player who buys cash resources will fire in front of the one who seeks the resources in play.  
After this form of update, I can only hope (with little hope) for Update 4.6. But I’m not sure if I’m still playing in January, after more than 4 years every week in Gems of War.  
I hope this system will be revised in order to favor all players. At the moment I can say that I am very disappointed. And I don’t think I’m the only one.

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8403 "2019-09-05T05:09:23Z")

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its not like you’ll never get deeds, it’ll just take non-paying players longer. still sucks, but they’re not withholding complete access to deeds.

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**Author:** ![Live](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/live/32/40596_2.png) [@Live](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Live)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 8:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8404 "2019-09-05T08:48:02Z")

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Are the prices for deeds already known?  
They only seem to be in flash offers and flash offers doenst exists on my plattform (PS4).

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**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 8:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8405 "2019-09-05T08:51:30Z")

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> [@Live](#):
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> Are the prices for deeds already known?  
> They only seem to be in flash offers and flash offers doenst exists on my plattform (PS4).

So basically PS4 shouldn’t have any deeds unbalance. 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Live](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/live/32/40596_2.png) [@Live](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Live)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8406 "2019-09-05T17:18:16Z")

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Yes, i am defintily not unhappy about that! 😁

Just wanna know the price.

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**Author:** ![BelethS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beleths/32/53407_2.png) [@BelethS](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/BelethS)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8407 "2019-09-05T22:32:26Z")

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I didn’t saw even 1 deed flash offer yet. While it have already been a AB deed task.

If this balance continues so, no one’s gonna get _p2w_ ahead. At least not a lot.

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**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 12:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8408 "2019-09-06T00:52:35Z")

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Yeah I have to point out we should all keep in mind that unless whales are getting secret flash offers we aren’t (which is technically possible) nobody but the devs know what the flash offers look like.

Also this confirms I was right about where all the time for QA went, I thought I was just being cynical.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/2/b278e457cc50ab1ae8fb8ed58468caae22240c40.jpeg "Puzzle Quest: The Legend Returns trailer (Switch)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2Xt1nOkCUI)

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**Author:** ![MeghatroN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/meghatron/32/50678_2.png) [@MeghatroN](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MeghatroN)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8409 "2019-09-06T20:53:56Z")

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Today we had the worst AB since Update 4.5 arrived  
I can already imagine the most patient players completing all the kingdoms in lvl15 in about 5 years of much struggle and luck …

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8410 "2019-09-08T15:05:15Z")

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Mecha Gnome is still listed as Dec 31 2029 on TaransWorld. Does this mean it will be released after all current troops with release dates? Or is there a history of troops suddenly moving _way_ up the queue?

I am _so close_ to finally getting Zuul’Goth, and was going to earn the final few Orbs of Ascension in the Vault while I tried for Mecha Gnome. But if I need to wait till 2020 or later, I might as well just do it now.

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**Author:** ![XLS78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b2d939/32.png) [@XLS78](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/XLS78)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8411 "2019-09-08T15:40:11Z")

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There’s a history of troops (especially ones like that) moving way up the queue. That said, there’s no indication at all of when it might be released, so grain of salt, etc.

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**Author:** ![EliteMasterEric](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/elitemastereric/32/59948_2.png) [@EliteMasterEric](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/EliteMasterEric)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 1:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8412 "2019-09-13T13:58:29Z")

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Spoiler update:

- The Broken Spire faction is called Mirrored Halls but we already knew that.

- Over 100 weapons and a bunch of troops got localization changes, most of the changes are capitalization-related. Weapons that destroy armor now eliminate armor. Still don’t know why they chose to rename this effect but whatever.

- The Diabolist class’s unique trait has a 25% chance to summon a Nightmare when an Ally casts a spell. Good trait trigger, but in context the trait is pretty bad (Nightmare is a garbage Common and Diabolist has no Stealthy or 50% mana start). Fiend Fire isn’t too bad as a mass Curse but there are better options.

- Did we know Mirrored Halls was +2 Yellow/+1 Blue/-1 Red before?

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**Author:** ![Neritar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/neritar/32/39263_2.png) [@Neritar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Neritar)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8413 "2019-09-13T14:15:11Z")

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> [@EliteMasterEric](#):
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> The Broken Spire faction is called Mirrored Halls but we already knew that.

Mirrored Halls is Glacial Peaks faction, not Broken Spire faction.

> [@EliteMasterEric](#):
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> Did we know Mirrored Halls was +2 Yellow/+1 Blue/-1 Red before?

Yes.

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**Author:** ![Mana\_Surgeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mana_surgeon/32/55678_2.png) [@Mana\_Surgeon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mana_Surgeon)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/8414 "2019-09-13T19:33:10Z")

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Spectacular September seems to continue next month, with two more good troops being added to the roster. Kryshound is made for scaling content, a gift to newer players that may open up new options for end-gamers. And Moira Cragheart may be the first event troop that sees use outside of events, as she seems designed to counter titan-class front slot heroes with her traits and spell.

Anyone else think these two will be useful?

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