# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1)
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280
**Category:** Spoilers
**Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 363
### Author:  [@Lissandra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lissandra)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 7:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7325 "2018-10-25T07:38:21Z")
It’s started… in the Legendary Room (V), there is one called Liche’s Crypt featuring Skeleton, Grave Seer, Spectral Knight and Xathenos. Glad to see they found a use for Xathenos but that also shows they aren’t holding back on letting the Mythic’s loose and are letting faction troops invade rooms now.
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### Author:  [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 8:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7326 "2018-10-25T08:47:30Z")
On paper, that scares me since Grave Seer fills Skeleton which will cast, get some lucky skull hit or miss and get a skull hit in anyways because of the extra turn. Like ouch.
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### Author:  [@nav037](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/nav037)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 8:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7327 "2018-10-25T08:48:44Z")
```
class: Plaguelord
kingdom: Darkstone
type: Human
traits:
talents: Arcane, Chaos, Stone
class weapon
name: Dark Potions
type: Artifact
color: green
affixes:
spell
name: Dark Potions
descr: TBD
cost: 3
```
```
class: Dervish
kingdom: Drifting Sands
type: Monster
traits:
talents: Wind, Cunning, Storms
class weapon
name: Curved Dagger
type: Dagger
color: yellow
affixes:
spell
name: Curved Dagger
descr: TBD
cost: 3
```
```
class: Tidecaller
kingdom: Merlantis
type: Merfolk
traits:
talents: Water, Life, Arcane
class weapon
name: Sea Trident
type: Polearm
color: blue
affixes:
spell
name: Sea Trident
descr: TBD
cost: 3
```
```
class: Corsair
kingdom: Blackhawk
type: Rogue
traits:
talents: Cunning, Water, Wind
class weapon
name: Pistols
type: Missile
color: blue
affixes:
spell
name: Pistols
descr: TBD
cost: 3
```
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### Author:  [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 8:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7328 "2018-10-25T08:49:26Z")
Humbly waiting for new backgrounds (Tower of Doom and what else)…
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### Author:  [@nav037](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/nav037)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 8:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7329 "2018-10-25T08:51:23Z")
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### Author:  [@Chalky123](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Chalky123)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 8:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7330 "2018-10-25T08:56:59Z")
> [@TimeKnight](#):
>
> It also give Moneybags trait to all allies troop, raising our max gold from 100 to be 500! 😮 Talk about accidentally OP Bonnie Rose!!
Doesnt actually work rn. Also: TIDAL WHY!?!?!?!
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### Author:  [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 8:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7331 "2018-10-25T08:58:39Z")
Heh, they really did give Drifting Sands Monsters. So… um… my Elemental Frostmage argument still stands? I guess?
Also, Wind Talent tree needs a serious buff.
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### Author:  [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 9:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7332 "2018-10-25T09:11:35Z")
“All future Enemies gain the Tidal Affix”
Inconsistent wording _again_. But more importantly, what the heck _is_ “Tidal”? We’ve got “Tidal King” on Undine, that’s literally the only thing I can find in the game, Lyya’s site and Taran’s site. If its _that_ trait, count me out please.
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### Author:  [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 9:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7333 "2018-10-25T09:28:47Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#):
>
> Heh, they really did give Drifting Sands Monsters. So… um… my Elemental Frostmage argument still stands? I guess?
Looking at the changes to Broken Spire troops I wouldn’t be surprised if Warlord is going to change from Giant to Elemental.
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### Author:  [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 9:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7334 "2018-10-25T09:47:42Z")
Seems logical, yet at the same time, I’m kinda hoping it doesn’t. Well, first of all, I’d want the Elemental Hero to have Storms, yet Bloodthirsty (70) and Lightning Strike (70) and Fireblade (100) and Lord of Storms (100) would compete. Probably one of the few talent combinations I wouldn’t want to mess with.
2nd of all, Broken Spire hero 3rd trait sucks badly (all 3 do, actually). Maybe if there’s ever a 50% Elemental Lord troop (or hero), then it’d be passable. You’d think the Warlord Hero would be a prime candidate to get the new Enraged Trait they currently have…
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### Author:  [@Magius](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magius)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 10:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7335 "2018-10-25T10:10:45Z")
Plaguelord is looking to be my favourite class next to Frostmage
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### Author:  [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 10:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7336 "2018-10-25T10:43:56Z")
The “Tidal” affix is applied to some weapons upon upgrade, with the effect “Gain Submerged upon casting”. See my post (#61 or so in the 4.1 Patch Notes thread) about how the devs wanted to kneecap Tesla.
Edit: #69, apparently. Nice.
> [@4.1 Patch Notes](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-1-patch-notes/47785/69):
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> Devs sprinkled some haterade on Tesla with the new Delve rooms. One of them spawns two empowered Lamias. Another gives enemies the Tidal affix (gain Submerge after casting a spell).
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### Author:  [@TimeKnight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TimeKnight)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 11:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7337 "2018-10-25T11:16:52Z")
It took me a while searching for Merlantis weapons on Lyya’s site to find out what this trait does. It’s quite confusing to apply Weapon’s Affix to troops. I prefer they just plainly explain it as “gain Submerge when I cast my spell” or just invent new trait for this.
Also, I don’t think this trait is aiming at just Tesla, but all scatter/AoE damage troops in general. Its strategy is the one with not much counter as the moment, so maybe this trait is their answer for making all strategies have their own weak and strong points if you want to beat all the rooms.
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### Author:  [@Chalky123](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Chalky123)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 11:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7338 "2018-10-25T11:48:14Z")
Also makes “farming” harder in certain delves (Rn only crypt). Crypt is the only delve with empowered in the boss room. That dodge to AoE is annoying. slows it down.
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### Author:  [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7339 "2018-10-25T12:41:30Z")
At least the Legendary Rooms are all in secundary paths, for now, so at high level Delves where you are better just rushing to the Boss Room you don’t have to worry about such team.
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### Author:  [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7340 "2018-10-25T14:36:02Z")
> [@Razzagor](#):
>
> At least the Legendary Rooms are all in secundary paths, for now
Why do I get the feeling that this will be changing for future delves?
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### Author:  [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7341 "2018-10-25T14:43:35Z")
> [@Lyrian](#):
>
> Why do I get the feeling that this will be changing for future delves?
Not sure if you are being a _cheeky_ Beta Tester right now… (as in you really knows about that but can’t tell/confirm anything)
😆
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### Author:  [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7342 "2018-10-25T15:22:23Z")
Not this time, unfortunately. The patch is live, so there are no current “beta secrets” at the moment.
Balance/playstyle changes like that are practically never released on beta, nor are we generally told about upcoming balance changes. Usually, we are allowed to play through beta with the things that will be nerfed on the live servers. Parts of the final patch are often frequently missing as well. For example, in this update, doomed weapons weren’t available when we tested the Tower briefly.
So, gut feeling, guided by past personal experiences on this one. With all of the changes lately, the tea leaves all seem to be pointing in this direction.
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### Author:  [@Lissandra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lissandra)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7343 "2018-10-25T16:49:23Z")
I get the feeling one of the delves will have one room to the boss and the mega long route but the short cut has the legendary room in the way… I get that bad feeling…
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### Author:  [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7344 "2018-10-25T17:03:03Z")
@nav037 Thanks for all the images. 🙂 Do you have any other class shield pics?
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