# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280>\
**Category:** Spoilers\
**Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 3:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7284 "2018-10-25T03:57:58Z")

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Taran site is updated:

**Holy St. Astra**  
Trait #3: Inspire Hope  
_All Humans start battle with 50% Mana._

**Alderfather**  
Trait #3: Magic Vines  
_Entangle a random enemy when matching Purple._

**Phoenicia**  
Mythic: Green, Red, Yellow  
Trait #3: Sun Flare  
_50% chance to Burn a random enemy at start of my turn._

**Tinseltail**  
Trait #3: Sour Candy  
_Faerie Fire a random enemy when matching Green Gems._

**Luna**  
Trait #3: Hidden Trap  
_Explode a random Gem when matching Yellow Gems._  
(The Warrens seem nearly impossible to win with Delve 500 faction team unless I’m missing something)

**High King Irongut**  
Mythic: Brown, Blue, Yellow  
24 mana cost  
**In the Pot**  
_Deal [Magic +4] damage to an enemy, with a chance to Devour them equal to my Attack. Gain an extra turn. [1x]_  
Trait #3: Just a Bite  
_Steal 4 Life when matching Brown Gems._

**Tian Yi**  
Mythic: Blue, Green, Yellow  
**Heavenly Strike**  
24 mana cost  
_Deal [Magic +5] splash damage to an enemy, and Stun all affected enemies. Deal x2 damage if my Attack if greater. Summon 1-3 Monkey Disciples._  
Trait #3: Monkey Magic  
_Steal 1 Magic from the first enemy at the start of my turn._  
3x stun and gets 50% mana start from Wildfolk… hmm

So… Legendaries getting Mythic traits. Mythics getting some pretty bad traits. What is going on here…

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 3:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7285 "2018-10-25T03:59:47Z")

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> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> Deal [Magic +4] damage to an enemy, with a chance to Devour them equal to my Attack. Gain an extra turn. [1x]

Wait if he got 100 att it’s 100% devour?

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7286 "2018-10-25T04:00:38Z")

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Reads that way so far

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7287 "2018-10-25T04:01:54Z")

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> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> Reads that way so far

I thought we were done with these stupid mechanic

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7288 "2018-10-25T04:03:22Z")

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> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> Trait #3: Just a Bite  
> _Steal 4 Life when matching Brown Gems._

Wait… 4 life from… all? surely it’s going to be updated to 4 life to the 1st troop or a random target? If not, uh… ummm… I take back anything I said.

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**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7289 "2018-10-25T04:04:18Z")

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> [@Rickygervais](#):
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> Wait if he got 100 att it’s 100% devour?

That’s exactly how that reads. For 24 mana, that puts Doomclaw to shame.

And since his devour chances are tied to attack, it’s buffable/debuffable. But, in any decently leveled delve/raid/invasion/whatever, its attack is going to be at least 100 which makes it a guaranteed devour to anything that isn’t immune to that status effect.

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7290 "2018-10-25T04:05:03Z")

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Sad… very sad

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**Author:** ![noob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/noob/32/54823_2.png) [@noob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/noob)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7291 "2018-10-25T04:06:43Z")

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On the bright side it will be perfect for delve

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7292 "2018-10-25T04:07:08Z")

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too many things immune to devour. It’ll only remove half of the threats.

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**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7293 "2018-10-25T04:07:10Z")

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Well at 100% he’s basically a Great Maw with a more consistent chance of extraturns and no mana generation as a tradeoff. And you will not be anywhere close to 100% without some serious buffgame, so i’d look at him as an actual worse Great Maw outside of delves, pretty dissapointing for a mythic imho.

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7294 "2018-10-25T04:07:44Z")

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> [@noob](#):
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> On the bright side it will be perfect for delve

You bet future faction boss will be immune to devour?

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**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7295 "2018-10-25T04:15:23Z")

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> [@Gouki](#):
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> Well at 100% he’s basically a Great Maw with a more consistent chance of extraturns and no mana generation as a tradeoff. And you will not be anywhere close to 100% without some serious buffgame, so i’d look at him as an actual worse Great Maw outside of delves.

Devil’s advocating here,

Yes, you are correct. But, unlike Maw, his spell is not a One-Shot Spell. And these days, 24 mana, especially on a tri-color mythic, is not hard to come by at all. Even if he can’t devour everyone, if it picks off one or two units, it’s now a force to be reckoned with from sheer attack rating alone. I’m sure plenty of teams will form around him.

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**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7296 "2018-10-25T04:16:56Z")

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Q2 2019 Mythics (in concept).

After these three, all Overworld kingdoms will have a base Mythic troop, with the last one releasing in May 2019.

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**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7297 "2018-10-25T04:25:48Z")

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Another Whitehelm event so soon? Hope everyone has their Peace Pigeons at level 20, as that will put Whitehelm at 14 stars of kingdom power.

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7298 "2018-10-25T04:28:07Z")

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Can’t wait for Kingdom Power level 14

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**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7299 "2018-10-25T04:31:08Z")

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Fair point regarding Delves, multiple devours starting at 100% chance will be great.  
However i don’t think the troop will be so great in pvp/GW, considering that for its devour you’d need buffing up beforehand _(or roll the dice, in which case you already have cheaper troops at your disposal to do that)_ significantly increasing your windup time for the devour and more than one devour isn’t really needed there either, so i’d still rate this troop below Maw in those modes.  
Anyway i probably overestimate those modes’ importance, with the game’s focus shifting more and more, an outdated mindset so to speak.

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7300 "2018-10-25T04:34:56Z")

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But i can hear people complain

Hey i had 60 att and didin’t devour but ai only got 30 att and always devour…

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**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7301 "2018-10-25T04:39:17Z")

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Guarantee someone will get a gimmick to make that 100 attack.

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**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7302 "2018-10-25T04:40:27Z")

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> [@Gouki](#):
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> Fair point regarding Delves, multiple devours starting at 100% chance will be great.  
> However i don’t think the troop will be so great in pvp/GW, considering that for its devour you’d need buffing up beforehand _(or roll the dice, in which case you already have cheaper troops at your disposal to do that)_ significantly increasing your windup time for the devour and more than one devour isn’t really needed there either, so i’d still rate this troop below Maw in those modes.  
> Anyway i probably overestimate those modes’ importance, with the game’s focus shifting more and more, an outdated mindset so to speak.

You’re not wrong.

In standard PvP/GW, the mythic goblin is still critically vulnerable to the same issues that all the other goblins suffer. He has no resistances and no ailment immunities. As you mention, time is also a key issue. Time that can likely be invested in other units for better returns on investment. If the mythic goblin casts and misses on the opening devour, then the match is probably going to be lost, which is a rather unpalatable risk to gamble on.

But, as you said in your last sentence (which I wholeheartedly agree with), several of the recent mythics are likely balanced around PvE modes more so than PvP modes.

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7303 "2018-10-25T04:40:35Z")

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> [@Gouki](#):
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> However i don’t think the troop will be so great in pvp/GW, considering that for its devour you’d need buffing up beforehand _(or roll the dice, in which case you already have cheaper troops at your disposal to do that)_

You underestimate how easy it is to fill a Brown troop. There’s also Star Gazer for a very quick Attack buff.

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