# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Spoilers\ **Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 340
**Author:** ![noob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/noob/32/54823_2.png) [@noob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/noob)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6856 "2018-09-07T15:42:15Z")
Do you also know the delve chest drop table? ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6857 "2018-09-07T21:10:27Z")
Unfortunately, I don’t think this data is available client-side. An explanation of chest odds may be in order here, and it’ll get a bit long-winded. As you know, @Taransworld reports chest odds for all known chests to some reasonable degree of accuracy. It’s a good way to get a sense of what your chances are, though it is _not the source of truth_ for the actual odds of getting any specific troop or other reward from any given key. All the data we have as a community about chest reward chances is informed from the server, which passes to the client at login time a list of all chests and possible rewards from those chests. In the past, this was used to show the “peek” of troops sliding in from the left that would give you a sense of what you could get. Along with those rewards are a set of odds, which are fractions that generally add to 1. Why exactly the server continues to send this data to the client is a mystery to me, because the client never uses these odds; it doesn’t decide what is in the chests, the server does (for obvious reasons that the client can’t be in control of the player’s inventory). Whatever the reason, @Taransworld scrapes these numbers and posts them on his site, helping players make informed decisions about when and which types of chests to spend their keys and Gems on. It must be emphasized that _we do not know if the server uses these values when rolling._ It’s possible that it does, and that the list and odds are just transmitted to the client at login time. This is a rational, reasonable assumption, but it’s not guaranteed, and there’s no way we can know without access to the server source. It’s _also_ possible that there’s a manual step of copying the loot tables from wherever they’re used to roll rewards to wherever they’re transmitted to the client, keeping in mind that it’s possible these are two separate machines or farms doing the work of deciding loot vs. logging in a user. _If_ the process is manual, then the odds he reports (and the ones I posted above) are subject to drift, and the source of truth is unknown to us. If it is not, then we are reporting the actual odds of the rewards for opening chests (distrust of RNG notwithstanding). However, as far as I can tell, delve chest odds are not being sent to the client. Only those chests for which there is a button in a menu somewhere do have entries, and delve chests are opened through a different path. There’s no need for the client to have these odds anyway, as they’re never shown to the user and only the server should care. Tl;dr: No, I don’t know the delve chest drop table ☹ ---
**Author:** ![noob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/noob/32/54823_2.png) [@noob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/noob)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6858 "2018-09-07T21:23:26Z")
Thanks for trying. But could you figure out what each level of delve chest drops? I dont need specific odds, i just need to know what i can possibly get from say level 5 chest to decide whether i should clear more rooms and risk losing to get those rewards, or go straight to the boss ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6859 "2018-09-07T21:25:34Z")
Aside from the community aggregating this data in a giant sheet – which is ultimately the best “source of truth” about probability – I don’t have ideas, sorry. From what I’ve found so far, there’s no information available on this in the game files. ---
**Author:** ![noob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/noob/32/54823_2.png) [@noob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/noob)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6860 "2018-09-07T21:27:49Z")
It’s ok. Youre still the best 🥰 ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6861 "2018-09-08T13:30:12Z")
> [@TimeKnight](#): > > Did you data-mining the rest of that info yourself? If you mean “open the files on my phone” yeah I check it myself. So as said before there are the 6 Doom of + 6 Ultimate Doom of. No more information about that… > [@TimeKnight](#): > > In 3 weeks (Oct 15/22/29), their events are Darkstone’s Raid/Urskaya’s GW+Bounty/Khaziel’s Invasion. Why are they using such a wierd schedule? Urskaya and Khaziel weeks should switch up. That’s strange. Not easy to solve because the Bounty event should happen the week of Oct 22nd… ---
**Author:** ![nav037](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nav037/32/11641_2.png) [@nav037](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/nav037)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6862 "2018-09-10T22:50:08Z")
next kingdoms ``` Crypt Keepers Sea of Sorrow Primal Rift Fire Rift Tinker Town Duergaroth Eldrazhor Wild Court Dark Pits Fang Moor Emperinazar The Warrens Amanithrax Indrajit's Den Dark Court Ice Rift Hell Gate Dripping Caverns The Labyrinth The Deep Hive Fell Roost Mirrorred Halls City of Thieves Wyrmrun The Black Heart Silver Necropolis Stonesong Eyrie Werewoods Sunken Fleet Lyrasza's Lair Illithia Depths of Sin ``` ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 11:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6863 "2018-09-10T23:05:00Z")
Factions guessing game: Primal Rift Fire Rift Tinker Town → Adana Duergaroth - Drak-Zum Eldrazhor Wild Court → Bright Forest Dark Pits Fang Moor Emperinazar The Warrens → Zaejin Amanithrax Indrajit’s Den Dark Court Ice Rift → Glacial Peaks Hell Gate → Blighted Lands Dripping Caverns → Khaziel The Labyrinth The Deep Hive → Zhul’Kari Fell Roost Mirrorred Halls City of Thieves Wyrmrun → Dragon’s Claw The Black Heart Silver Necropolis → Ghulvania Stonesong Eyrie Werewoods → Maugrim Woods Sunken Fleet → Blackhawk Lyrasza’s Lair Illithia Depths of Sin → Sin of Maraj ---
**Author:** ![nav037](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nav037/32/11641_2.png) [@nav037](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/nav037)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6864 "2018-09-10T23:09:03Z")
Sea of Sorrow \> Merlantis ---
**Author:** ![Graeme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@Graeme](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Graeme)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6865 "2018-09-10T23:24:35Z")
Stonesong Eyrie - Maugrim Woods? Also, Werewoods - Ghulvania? ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6866 "2018-09-10T23:26:51Z")
Stonesong Eyrie maybe Suncrest? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Graeme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@Graeme](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Graeme)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6867 "2018-09-10T23:28:32Z")
Cockatrice’s spell is Stone Song, also a bird, so eyrie. That was my logic anyway lol. ---
**Author:** ![Graeme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@Graeme](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Graeme)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 11:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6868 "2018-09-10T23:41:43Z")
Fang Moor - Mist of Scales? Fangblade, Viper, Scale Guard. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 12:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6869 "2018-09-11T00:04:14Z")
Eldrazhor → Karakoth Fell Roost → Dragon’s Claw / Suncrest City of Thieves → Leonis Empire ---
**Author:** ![Laenir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5ac83/32.png) [@Laenir](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Laenir)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 1:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6870 "2018-09-11T01:10:24Z")
Empirinazar - Khaziel (Due to Empirina) Silver Necropolis - Khetar Fire Rift - Broken Spire The Mirrored Halls - Stormheim ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6871 "2018-09-11T01:35:33Z")
the sad thought that its going to take 3 years to have every faction release… ---
**Author:** ![Doordash\_Support](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/doordash_support/32/45654_2.png) [@Doordash\_Support](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doordash_Support)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6872 "2018-09-11T02:58:08Z")
Factions invalidate current resources. 3 years from now the game will either shut down or be so pay to win it’ll cost to download the thing. ---
**Author:** ![TimeKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/timeknight/32/50221_2.png) [@TimeKnight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TimeKnight)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6873 "2018-09-11T03:34:37Z")
Or… the game will go on with much more contents and large supportive fanbase, and you won’t be there anymore with your faulty, pessimistic retorts. Hopefully. ---
**Author:** ![Doordash\_Support](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/doordash_support/32/45654_2.png) [@Doordash\_Support](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doordash_Support)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6874 "2018-09-11T03:51:56Z")
I’ll still be here. Don’t worry. Negativity will live on and take over your heart! The end of the world is coming! Follow Doordash\_Support (the underscore is important) to salvation! Follow me into the darkness! I am the maharajah of all things negative! I hope my keyboard breaks! I hope my monitor dies! SAVE THE CHILDREN! Anyways, no, the game won’t go on because there won’t be enough people supporting it if it continues to invalidate current resources and call the replacements “features” instead of “new direction with payshop in mind”. ---
**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 4:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6875 "2018-09-11T04:35:58Z")
My 2 cents of suggestions: The Labyrinth → Wild Plains Fang Moor → Mist of Scales Primal Rift → Shentang Wild Court → Pan’s Vale Lyrasza’s Lair → Urskaya (because nothing else sounds Slavic-like) Dark Pits → Grosh-Nak [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280.md?page=339) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280.md?page=341)