# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280>\
**Category:** Spoilers\
**Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sheba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sheba/32/45190_2.png) [@Sheba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sheba)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6776 "2018-09-02T02:46:11Z")

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I personally hate getting disease, depending on my team it completely wrecks my combos. I usually play Deep Borer/Ragnagord/Infernus/HIghforge as my go-to team for everything and for whatever reason, the enemies just love to disease Ragnagord; he’s 100% priority disease target in all battles. And I just know that even when he explodes stuff, I can forget getting Infernus filled. Every. Single. Time.

That said, though, the 8%-kill-on-4-match mythic is nuts. Only saving grace it has is that it’s not a green Mana user to abuse Yasmine’s spell, but then again, there’s trolls and others who will work easily enough even without it being a Yasmine-combo-troop.

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**Author:** ![Doordash\_Support](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/doordash_support/32/45654_2.png) [@Doordash\_Support](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doordash_Support)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 3:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6777 "2018-09-02T03:07:30Z")

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I’m all for having my whole team diseased and matching 4 to one shot the enemy team. But you know, nerf Ubastet. Dude needed at least SOME mana, all this new thing needs is a 4 match.

Wait.

The match 4 sometimes doesn’t give an extra turn… because the game is broken… so…

ILLUMINATI! The devs did this to see the backlash of the concept, since it won’t work anyways because the game is broken. AHAHAHA!

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**Author:** ![Zepp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zepp/32/42136_2.png) [@Zepp](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zepp)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 3:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6778 "2018-09-02T03:14:42Z")

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> [@Sheba](#):
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> the enemies just love to disease Ragnagord

Another example of how unfairly Ragnagord gets treated. The Ragnagord Appreciation and Preservation Society will not stand for it!

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**Author:** ![Sheba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sheba/32/45190_2.png) [@Sheba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sheba)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 3:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6779 "2018-09-02T03:33:22Z")

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> [@Zepp](#):
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> Another example of how unfairly Ragnagord gets treated. The Ragnagord Appreciation and Preservation Society will not stand for it!

Well, I would indeed appreciate you do something about it. 😛

That said, Ragnagord will work well with Megavore, despite the colorblock. In fact, there’s potential like  
Rock Troll  
Ragnagord  
Ubastet/Infernus  
Megavore  
for red day. Also pretty sure something can be done for brown day; if Megavore is used like Mab, mainly for its trait and the devour-block of Kraken in last slot, then just slap Diviner in first spot as a converter for Ubastet/Infernus and you have a brown day team.

In the same tone, if only used as trait-troop, a team with Yasmine remains viable.  
Forest Troll/Rock Troll  
Loyalty  
Yasmine  
Megavore  
Would totally work. Has less survivability than Forest Troll/Loyalty/Yasmine/Aurora and a bit less gem spam to keep the loop up, but changing Loyalty for Aurora seems unwise in terms of filling possibilities. Also Megavore will be a second damage dealer, even if not a stellar one, and again get rid of the devour weakness of the Aurora-team against Kraken/Mab teams, which tend to murder loop teams because of the freeze anyway.

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**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 6:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6780 "2018-09-02T06:13:45Z")

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Disease would be fine in a vacuum, the problem is that we got Silence first and we all know that it is waaaay stronger while doing everything the other does.

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**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 8:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6781 "2018-09-02T08:03:20Z")

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Disease is absolutely fine and a trait auto applying it on purple matches is quite good, surely better then several other mythic troop traits currently.  
Yes silence is better, which is why a trait auto applying it on x-matches would just break the game and hopefully never gets introduced…we dodged that bullet once.

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**Author:** ![TimeKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/timeknight/32/50221_2.png) [@TimeKnight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TimeKnight)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 9:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6782 "2018-09-02T09:07:32Z")

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> [@Gouki](#):
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> silence is better, which is why a trait auto applying it on x-matches would just break the game and hopefully never gets introduced

Yeah, that unreleased third trait of Bard that silence random troop on 4/5 gems matches, which quickly changed to buffing yellow instead, a mythic trait of Scorpius/Champion of Anu. It’s also a bit of a mistake, consider that stacking 4x color buff will never happened for yellow troops. And changing it to “steal 3 attack from top enemy troop at the start of every turn” would be too late now.

As for the Disease status effect, I put it on the same group of spell-delaying effect (along with Web and Silence). Silence is the best, but its weakness is it enable troop under it to fill up faster, unlike Disease, in which if the whole enemy teams is affected, it will be hard to collect more mana. Web is difference in that mana is still flowing as usual, but no one would want to cast spells from webbed troops. So all 3 status effect could help you casting spell faster before they can counter.

So I agree that Disease on normal 3-gem match is quite powerful, especially in the Magnus team.

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**Author:** ![KYLENATOR001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kylenator001/32/33983_2.png) [@KYLENATOR001](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KYLENATOR001)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6783 "2018-09-02T14:42:25Z")

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You mean like they would never add a trait to deathmark on 4+ matches? They weren’t crazy enough to do it after how broken it was. Give them some cre… who the heck is megavore?  
Oh no. Yea I’d rather take a silence on 4+ than instakill as silence you can prevent to begin with or cleanse with a wide variety of options. Nothing stops destroy currently.

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**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6784 "2018-09-02T14:56:01Z")

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I have voiced my opinion about the Megavore trait in this thread a bit further up. To spare you the scrolling, with just an 8% chance i think most games it won’t do much, whenever it does for the AI though it’ll be infuriating for sure, i find it dumb and rather not have something like it in the game.  
However i would rather have the 8% chance for instantkill on x-match trait than a 100% silence on x-match trait if i had to choose between the two, call it personal preference.  
The game would be better off without either.

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**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6785 "2018-09-02T15:20:43Z")

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If the devs are going “Kaiju” with this stuff why not make a decent Mythic Monster to work out with the other monsters out there? We could even have Legendary/Mythic Monster Slayer Mech, and maybe some Monsters Slayer soldiers/hunters in other kingdoms…

Oh right… that would require reworks and buff for the other monsters and maybe actual creative meetings to make the Mythic in the first place. 🙄

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**Author:** ![KYLENATOR001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kylenator001/32/33983_2.png) [@KYLENATOR001](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KYLENATOR001)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6786 "2018-09-02T15:30:17Z")

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True, and I do understand the argument in that favor given how potent silence is. While the best silence counter is mythic, silence to me still has more responses than megavore’s traits atm. If he lost stun protection or we got a trait that stops destruction or lethal damage, then that would be better than the potentially bad situation we may find ourselves in.

The other point I was attempting to make is, the devs may very well add silence on X match as we voiced the problem with deathmark, then it got drastically changed and a large portion of the troops gained immunity to it. Based on precedent this may happen with silence as now we may be getting a troop that essentially is a pre nerf deathmark that warded or impervious can’t save you from. I do remember the earlier points above, but I’d argue the precedent this troop could set especially at this current game state could be disastrous. Hopefully the devs reconsider and put this new trait back on the never to be considered shelf.

Since I’d rather base my team on strategy over luck, even if a troop silenced the entire opponent’s team, I could plan around it. This new trait may or may not proc too often as luck is a cruel mistress in this game. The important thing is no strategy or tactic can stop it outside of X turn 1 win team, which it could stop anything if you get a good starting board.

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**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6787 "2018-09-02T21:18:46Z")

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I use the sorcerer class, which is why I said this is a rip off of one of its traits.

I also have a beast team with Sunsail but the disease is not built around, but does slow mana gathering.

Mythic trait should at least target the first troop so you can build around 2x skull damage troops, hence my reference to Venbarak above.

Edit: Disease, and poison for that matter, rework is so long overdue. I would like to see a change to disease for it to be able to either:

- permanent until cleansed like poison

Or

- Chance to infect another troop equal to its chance of self cleansing. So longer it hangs around more likely it is to infect someone else.

Or

- Both

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**Author:** ![MeghatroN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/meghatron/32/50678_2.png) [@MeghatroN](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MeghatroN)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6788 "2018-09-04T20:53:32Z")

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**Does anyone have the image of Pet Dragonkitty?** 😍  
**Anxiety is killing me.**

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**Author:** ![jzg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jzg/32/53451_2.png) [@jzg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jzg)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6789 "2018-09-04T20:57:21Z")

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> [@Design A Pet Process (Cat Dragon Rough Colours)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/design-a-pet-process-cat-dragon-rough-colours/41910):
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> Once again, I want to say a huge thank you to everyone who participated in our Design a Pet community Event. slight_smile As we know, the winner was the Cat Dragon! Our artist has been hard at work and the Cat Dragon is underway! Here are the rough concept sketches she’s been working on. cat2 dragon EDIT: 10/7/18 Here are the rough colours! More progress coming soon. [soontm]

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**Author:** ![Taransworld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taransworld/32/17324_2.png) [@Taransworld](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taransworld)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 9:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6790 "2018-09-04T21:01:57Z")

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> [@MeghatroN](#):
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> **Does anyone have the image of Pet Dragonkitty?** 😍  
> **Anxiety is killing me.**

I’m guessing we will have the pictures on the pet page at [taransworld.com](http://taransworld.com) when 4.0 comes out. They normally include lots of new graphics whenever a release comes out.

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**Author:** ![MeghatroN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/meghatron/32/50678_2.png) [@MeghatroN](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MeghatroN)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6791 "2018-09-04T21:33:46Z")

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I’ll wait. Do you have any idea what day we’ll get Update 4.0? Was it Friday?

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6792 "2018-09-04T21:38:09Z")

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No salty said this week but before friday

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**Author:** ![MeghatroN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/meghatron/32/50678_2.png) [@MeghatroN](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MeghatroN)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6793 "2018-09-04T21:40:39Z")

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Thank you. So I will not sleep for the next few hours and try not to die of anxiety.

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**Author:** ![Taransworld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taransworld/32/17324_2.png) [@Taransworld](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taransworld)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6794 "2018-09-04T21:41:24Z")

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Join the Pizza strike…

> [@Pizza Strike until 4.0 is released!](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pizza-strike-until-4-0-is-released/38587):
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> Some people choose hunger strikes to give voice to their cause. I choose instead to go on a pizza strike until the new patch is released! If you want to join me in this effort, all you have to do is eat pizza daily. That simple folks. And may the rise in your cholesterol fill the gap that many of us are trying to get through currently. Hope you’re happy iOS. face_with_raised_eyebrow My poison of choice for today. [Pizza\_Taco3]

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**Author:** ![mld-81](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mld-81/32/63170_2.png) [@mld-81](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mld-81)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/6795 "2018-09-04T21:41:48Z")

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