# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1)
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280
**Category:** Spoilers
**Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5011 "2017-12-18T21:37:53Z")
And they fixed the bug on Amira that was applying her magic increase before she does damage. I’m coming up a couple damage short almost every time against Mab now (even after whacking Justice), but I probably had no chance to one-shot Skadi with Amira anyway.
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### Author:  [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5012 "2017-12-18T22:04:52Z")
Try putting Wulfgarok and/or Penguin in th team?
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### Author:  [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5013 "2017-12-18T22:08:32Z")
That would have to happen at the expense of Manticore, who can be _really_ handy with his mana-drain. Wulfgarok could still be a mana-burn immune Kraken-stumper in the back row, though, and an extra 10 true damage from Amira sounds really good. I will give that a try - thanks for the suggestion!
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### Author:  [@AngryMidget](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AngryMidget)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5014 "2017-12-18T22:11:15Z")
That’s why my f\*\*ing EK died and I lost my guild wars battle last week.
I knew I was bad at maths but I was sure double 30 isn’t 62.
THANK YOU.
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### Author:  [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5015 "2017-12-18T22:14:03Z")
No problem. My anti-blue team has been slowly whittled away thanks to nerfs and bug-fixes. Thankfully, the nerf to Justice has more than offset everything they’ve done to Gorgotha (fixing the explosion collecting bug on console), EK (nerfs and fixing spell order bug), Amira (fixing the spell-order bug) and Manticore (nerfs).
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### Author:  [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5016 "2017-12-18T22:24:54Z")
Mine is Gorgotha + Giant Spider + Amira + Wulfgarok. Abysmal banner.
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### Author:  [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5017 "2017-12-18T22:43:59Z")
Same, except I replaced Wulfgarok with Elemaugrim. How’s your success rate?
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### Author:  [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5018 "2017-12-18T23:26:56Z")
Pretty much 100% against EKVM builds. Can be a little slow finishing off non-blue troops - esp if Mercy is there and keeps healing.
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### Author:  [@actreal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/actreal)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2017, 12:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5019 "2017-12-19T00:16:20Z")
> [@Lyya](#):
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> Keep your friends close, anenomes closer.
@Nimhain
Please correct the typo in the quote for Coral Golem before release - it’s ane_mon_es.
Thanks in pedantry, Actreal. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5020 "2017-12-19T00:39:05Z")
Literally anymone could make that mistake, though.
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### Author:  [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2017, 6:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5021 "2017-12-19T06:52:48Z")
You were just urchin to make that pun…
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### Author:  [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2017, 12:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5022 "2017-12-21T00:21:07Z")
Skadi having the same Arcanes than Abynissia is normal or not? I believed that we will get each combinaison…
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### Author:  [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5023 "2017-12-21T01:05:07Z")
I actually love Skadi. An Army of Mabs? SIGN ME UP.
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### Author:  [@JuaitoR](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JuaitoR)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5024 "2017-12-21T02:45:08Z")
Is it? I thought plains and spirit would make more sense.
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### Author:  [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2017, 5:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5025 "2017-12-21T05:13:16Z")
Spirit/Blade according to our spoiler providers.
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### Author:  [@netwizard](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/netwizard)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2017, 5:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5026 "2017-12-23T05:42:33Z")
Any thoughts on approaching Gargantaur Mythic?
His spell is pure damage, no mana generation, no debuffs placed, no summons, no true damage, no AoE, etc. His damage/spell cost is ridiculous at the beginning (40 damage for 24 mana), and you need a reliable way to amplify that damage.
Killing enemies is obviously not enough, two enemies will only bring you 20 damage, and even if you manage to do so, that means that you already have hard hitting troops in your team. Should I place a mana generator for these strong troops instead of him then?
Another way is to use summoning-sacrificing team. And you need a good looping self-killing team because 1-2 sacrificed allied is not enough, you need 4-8 of them to make his spell viable. Something that utilizes Fire bombs, Elspeths, Sacrifices, Sunbirds, maybe. Can’t think of any good color synergies right now.
His first two traits are nothing, third one buffs his attack and magic by 4 when he takes damage [to life] (like other orcs, I suppose?). But his spell is not an AoE, so I see little potential in it. This could be useful if enemy places poison on you or has Death.
To summarize: in current state it’s a very weak Mythic. There are other troops that perform better for the same Mana cost. Pharos is a better sniper that only requires souls, which can be easily obtained from TDS and Valkyrie. They have color synergy, too. Infernus does ton of damage, generates mana and self-loops occasionaly for 22 mana.
He could be interesting if he had true damage, but we already have Jotnar for that with useful 3rd trait (Jotnar doesn’t scale indefinitely though).
Any thoughts?
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### Author:  [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2017, 5:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5027 "2017-12-23T05:48:47Z")
I think your post can be summarised as ‘how can this thing be any use?’
That spell would be of moderate use on a UR troop at 12 mana. As drafted we could have a new contender for worst mythic.
The trait combo is poorly set up: he can get lethal if he takes damage - but we want other allies to die, not him.
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### Author:  [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2017, 6:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5028 "2017-12-23T06:18:57Z")
For it to be an alright mythic the boost would have to be 50x at least not 10x.
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### Author:  [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2017, 7:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5029 "2017-12-23T07:33:16Z")
> [@Jainus](#):
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> That spell would be of ~~moderate~~ _very little_ use on a UR troop at 12 mana.
Fixed that for you.
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### Author:  [@Draprion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draprion)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2017, 7:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/5030 "2017-12-23T07:35:21Z")
Agreed. It will be very under whelming if released as is.
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