# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280>\
**Category:** Spoilers\
**Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Whiskeyjack](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whiskeyjack/32/65850_2.png) [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4647 "2017-11-13T22:06:16Z")

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It says “and destroy myself”, no? Or are you looking at more recent game data than in Lyya’s post?

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 10:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4648 "2017-11-13T22:09:05Z")

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Destroying oneself is not the same as making the spell one-shot. Other copies can still fire if destroyed, but not if the spell is one-shot.

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**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4649 "2017-11-13T22:12:16Z")

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> [@Lyya](#):
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> Destroying oneself is not the same as making the spell one-shot. Other copies can still fire if destroyed, but not if the spell is one-shot.

There is also the matter of how mana gathering will work. The “destroy” step happens _after_ the explode step (but before cascade matches). Thus, a four red gem exploder that is a one-shot, assuming one shot locked mana gathering _immediately_ when the spell is cast and not after the spell _finished_ processing, would generate a _guaranteed_ three red mana. With it functioning pretty much how bombot functions, it will _waste_ at least three red mana by gathering it onto itself before destroying itself.

Edit: As I said earlier, it again brings to the forefront the possibility of completely selfdefeating defenses that was such an issue at one point that they had to do an extremely hamfisted workaround to prevent it from happening that is still a part of the game with the underlying issue having never been addressed. Four Fire Bombs isnt quite the degree of self defeating that solo-Elspeth was when she instantly ended the match casting on herself, but I would have put money on _why_ that is why it was a one-shot in the first place (and, apparently, lost that money).

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**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4650 "2017-11-13T22:57:41Z")

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Multiple fire bombs won’t be much use if the first one gets rid of pretty much all of the red gems on the board. What’s going on with the rest of them? I’m not sure if I ‘get’ these little things!

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 12:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4651 "2017-11-14T00:19:58Z")

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They’re empowered. Doesn’t matter how much churn the board.

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4652 "2017-11-14T03:24:35Z")

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I’m already hoping along the lines of:

Fire Bomb  
Fire Bomb  
Sunbird  
Ogryn/Forest Guardian/Umberwolf

would make for some nice explore clears.

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**Author:** ![Taransworld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taransworld/32/17324_2.png) [@Taransworld](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taransworld)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4653 "2017-11-15T00:10:18Z")

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@nav037, based on what Ozball said above…

**Troop name:** Lost Prince  
Kingdom: Bright Forest  
Mana Color: Red  
Arcane: Rage  
Base Rarity: Epic  
Troop Types: No Troop Type, No Troop Type  
Troops ID: Quest\_K31 / 6425  
Max Skills: Unknown

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**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 1:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4654 "2017-11-15T01:08:06Z")

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No his name is Hot Dude!!!

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**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 1:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4655 "2017-11-15T01:14:40Z")

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> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> No his name is Hot Dude!!!

Hot Dude **“Neck Macneck”** i believe…

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 1:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4656 "2017-11-15T01:14:51Z")

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I just hope his little pipip turns into a beautiful White Dragon that shines so bright.

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**Author:** ![Esoxnepa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esoxnepa/32/1837_2.png) [@Esoxnepa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esoxnepa)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 1:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4657 "2017-11-15T01:18:01Z")

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We know the spoiler data is subject to change.

So the final name is an anagram of Hot Dude!!!..

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**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 1:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4658 "2017-11-15T01:19:01Z")

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> [@Eika](#):
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> White Dragon

The White Dragon Co… er… Chiken!

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**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 1:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4659 "2017-11-15T01:26:36Z")

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So something like Dud Hote? (pronouced: Dud Hottie)

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4660 "2017-11-15T01:44:45Z")

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> [@Esoxnepa](#):
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> an anagram of Hot Dude!!!..

Duo Deth?  
Odd Hute?  
Dout Hed?

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 10:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4661 "2017-11-15T10:27:34Z")

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> [@Grundulum](#):
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> Duo Deth?
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> Odd Hute?
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> Dout Hed?

Theo Dud? 🤔

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**Author:** ![JuaitoR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/juaitor/32/11770_2.png) [@JuaitoR](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JuaitoR)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 11:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4662 "2017-11-15T11:45:38Z")

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Just call him Sergio

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**Author:** ![Amadan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amadan/32/7653_2.png) [@Amadan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Amadan)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4663 "2017-11-15T13:47:56Z")

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> [@Grundulum](#):
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> Odd Hute?

That one is a fantastic name.

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**Author:** ![Sheba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sheba/32/45190_2.png) [@Sheba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sheba)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4664 "2017-11-15T13:52:44Z")

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Is anyone else disturbed by Hot Dude’s shoulder pad (I know that’s not the English word I’m looking for, but I don’t even know what that thing is called in German, so I have no way to use the dictionary)?  
It doesn’t just have a glowing eye, but also… well, I guess it’s supposed to be a lion, but it has a lot of similiarity with Luther. Must be the scar, I guess, but I can’t unsee it and it gets my attention every time I look at the picture.  
Dude needs to be hotter to distract me.

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**Author:** ![Amadan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amadan/32/7653_2.png) [@Amadan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Amadan)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 1:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4665 "2017-11-15T13:59:56Z")

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“Pauldron” is the word you’re looking for. And I honestly didn’t see the lion at all until you said something, but now I can’t un-see it.

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**Author:** ![Sheba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sheba/32/45190_2.png) [@Sheba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sheba)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4666 "2017-11-15T14:09:14Z")

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Dang, I had heard that word before somewhere and didn’t remember it!  
Thank you for teaching me new stuff and sorry for wrecking the picture for you!😅

Also just noticed that lion is one of these things where no matter from which angle you look at it, they seem to look back at you. Eep!

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