# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280>\
**Category:** Spoilers\
**Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Melissa96](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/melissa96/32/42630_2.png) [@Melissa96](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Melissa96)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4527 "2017-11-05T13:22:18Z")

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![Gnaw](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/6/26806a8b0485ca38324e126c34b3ff62c20c0e20.jpg)

just for fun 😌

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 1:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4528 "2017-11-05T13:34:05Z")

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Looks nice, but the text size is too small

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**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 1:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4529 "2017-11-05T13:42:32Z")

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> [@Gilgamesh](#):
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> Traits that fire on skull matches are all or nothing they are not independent rolls.

> [@JuaitoR](#):
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> Then Kruag wasn’t nerfed in the latest patch, correct?

> [@Gilgamesh](#):
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> Nope and neither did armor piercing or agile traits.

I’m not actually 100% on this. _Proc chance_ skull traits (Assassinate, Voracious, old Hunger) were capped at one fire per board for most of the game (they weren’t when first introduced, and you could multi-assassinate or devour off a skull blob), but they did appear to get a separate roll for each skull matched even in huge clusters until they did fire (so a pre-nerf Bone Dragon hit would generally get you an Assassinate). What may or may not have happened now is that they only get one _roll_ per board, which would be terrible for things like Kruarg. Agile/armor piercing were always one check per skull damage resolve.

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**Author:** ![Gilgamesh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gilgamesh/32/29022_2.png) [@Gilgamesh](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gilgamesh)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4530 "2017-11-05T16:26:56Z")

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As far as I can tell from my experience those traits haven’t resolved independently for no less than the past eight months. Prior to that I had not the traits.

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**Author:** ![KrudlerTheHorse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/krudlerthehorse/32/9505_2.png) [@KrudlerTheHorse](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KrudlerTheHorse)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4531 "2017-11-05T16:50:58Z")

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> [@XLS78](#):
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> I agree that this one looks tough at first blush. But it’s worth noting that some of the mythics people have previously bashed (and some that people still bash) can actually be very useful and fun in the right deck.

Great point. Also something that doesn’t get talked about a lot is that every card has a usability curve. Some cards can be used at the start of the game (low Hero level) then fall off and are never seen again. Others are only really useful only at end game. Some are are useful at the start, then fall off, then become usable again at end-game. Others are complete trash until a certain Trait unlocks or the Player captures another Troop which is intended to synergize.

It is a very complex formula.

Not to oversimplify but not all Troops are relevant at all levels of Player progression, and it doesn’t mean that the Troop instantly falls into the “bad” range just because one or two Players don’t find it useful considering where they are at.

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**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4532 "2017-11-05T17:05:55Z")

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Just when i thought i finished farming all my Arcane Beast (Red+Green) Traitstones i check the spoilers to see 2 Mythics and 1 Legendary that will need those…  
That’s 58 Traitstones and no preview of when it will be included in glory packs again.

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**Author:** ![Rinny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Rinny](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rinny)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4533 "2017-11-05T23:36:40Z")

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Think Tazthoth was originally scheduled for Jan 29th. Not complaining, always nice to have new troops.

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4534 "2017-11-05T23:56:21Z")

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It was; I caught the change but the text is missing from my latest pull.

> [@(!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change/1280/4497):
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> Actually, now that I think of it, there’s no way that second troop is releasing next week, despite what the data is telling me. The kingdoms don’t match.

Eating my words now…

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**Author:** ![Taransworld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taransworld/32/17324_2.png) [@Taransworld](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taransworld)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 12:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4535 "2017-11-06T00:24:19Z")

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The game files have two different dates. I’ll have to figure out which one to follow on the website (apparently Tzathoth is being released tonight). Now I’m not sure I trust the hero class dates either. ☹ Sorry for the false hope/worry.

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4536 "2017-11-06T00:49:27Z")

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The Hero class dates are incorrect. There’s no meaningful release date yet for those.

> [@(!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change/1280/4507):
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> Bard is not scheduled yet for release. The current date that’s set is 12/31/2018, which is a placeholder date that means “not yet to release.”

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**Author:** ![Maxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maxx/32/50891_2.png) [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 5:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4537 "2017-11-06T05:31:35Z")

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@Lyya is this correct?

> **[Bard - Classes - Gems of War Database](https://gowdb.com/classes/11149)**
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> Orpheus' Lute (10 Yellow): Gain \[Magic + 4\] Life. Cleanse and Enchant all other allies.

> **[Dragonguard - Classes - Gems of War Database](https://gowdb.com/classes/11157)**
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> Dragon's Eye (15 Brown): Destroy \[(Magic / 2) + 1\] Gems. Transform the last Enemy into an empowered Baby Dragon.

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 5:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4538 "2017-11-06T05:39:13Z")

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Ugh, no. Those shouldn’t be there. Thanks for the heads up.

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**Author:** ![Maxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maxx/32/50891_2.png) [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 5:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4539 "2017-11-06T05:43:46Z")

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Any devs reading this that Bard class trait is a lot less annoying than the silencing one

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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 6:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4540 "2017-11-06T06:49:47Z")

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Will we really get another Mythic troop on November 24th?

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**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 6:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4541 "2017-11-06T06:54:24Z")

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Both new classes look good! Bard is a yellow version of scorpius without the ridiculous situational spell. Could be fun!

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**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 8:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4542 "2017-11-06T08:08:48Z")

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Really, what about them do you like? My initial thoughts are ‘meh’. Weapons good be better, that dragon weapon will be a liability in Arena. Potentially reviving a near dead troop etc

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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 8:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4543 "2017-11-06T08:22:38Z")

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Their 3rd trait 🙂 . Bard’s one will be great with Dawnbringer 😉 .

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**Author:** ![Maxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maxx/32/50891_2.png) [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 8:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4544 "2017-11-06T08:36:03Z")

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I really hope these will be the traits. Bard will be good with Dawnbringer and Dragonguard will be good with Krystenax.

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**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 8:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4545 "2017-11-06T08:45:18Z")

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Exactly. Sometimes it’s about the traits, the weapon can be swapped!

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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 8:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4546 "2017-11-06T08:55:31Z")

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Dragonguard could be cool with Krystenax and Dawnbringer (yeah no magic bonus from the class, but who cares when you can get one magic point for every 4+ match 😉 ).

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