# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Spoilers\ **Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 205
**Author:** ![akots](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@akots](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/akots)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 8:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4125 "2017-09-30T08:53:26Z")
> [@sidewinDr](#): > > The Birthday Paradox also has little to do with the question of probability of independent events happening together. That link subject is irrelevant, it simply shows the logic, assumptions, and equations for a relatively similar case. šŸ˜‰ > [@sidewinDr](#): > > Err, why are we assuming that opened keys affect the result of keys opened thereafter? Isnā€™t that exactly what the Gamblerā€™s Fallacy entails? It is actually quite the opposite. See for details: [Gambler's fallacy - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy) > [@](#): > > Gamblerā€™s fallacy does not apply when the probability of different events is not independent, the probability of future events can change based on the outcome of past eventsā€¦ The are some other relevant wiki articles cited there. This forum harbors some traditional misconceptions on the matter including widely accepted and frequently mistaken use of ā€œrecall biasā€ which I presume is equivalent to more correct term ā€œobserver biasā€ or more properly should be referred as ā€œstatistical biasā€. So far, there has been no clear evidence confirming or denying presence of this type of bias. Claiming that observer is biased is not the evidence, obviously. [Bias (statistics) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_(statistics)) The main issue of course is always independence of separate throws. However, it is quite hard to determine in the case of particular pRNG systems especially those based on seed numbers as the issues on the origin of seed numbers remain obscure. I would still presume that each particular sequence of pRNG output is not entirely independent however it is still normally distributed provided that the sample is large enough. The whole sequence is determined completely and entirely by the seed number and will not change unless there is a new seed number generated. Whatever triggers this reset is not known to us, alas. And I am not aware of any method to reliably determine instances of this reset. ---
**Author:** ![katus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/katus/32/27883_2.png) [@katus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/katus)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4126 "2017-09-30T18:34:13Z")
Came for spoilers, got math lesson ---
**Author:** ![Emos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emos/32/5163_2.png) [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4127 "2017-09-30T19:45:20Z")
Reminds me of that Far Side cartoon - ā€œCan I go home now? My brain is fullā€ šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![ehansen24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/67e7ee/32.png) [@ehansen24](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ehansen24)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 7:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4128 "2017-09-30T19:47:13Z")
I can see into the future! Hereā€™s what I see happening 1 week from today: 1. Iā€™m playing PVP and I see a Doomclaw team for the first time. 2. I think, ā€œHuhā€¦ Doomclaw. I havenā€™t played against him before.ā€ 3. On the 2nd turn, the computer gets a crazy mana cascade. Doomclaw fills up, and devours 2 of my troops. 4. I stare at my screen in disbelief for a full minute, wondering why I still play this game. I then hit the retreat button. The match is lost, and I only made 2 moves. 5. As I exit PVP, a pop-up screen asks if I want to spend $50 bucks on Path to Glory II. 6. I take out my baseball bat and smash my monitor to bits, while screaming bloody murder. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4129 "2017-09-30T19:48:47Z")
This one: ![farside_brain_full](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/7/27866ed9775a93e1dab8a4e82392ecfff83034e9.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4130 "2017-09-30T20:23:57Z")
Mister Osborne here, somebody want me? ---
**Author:** ![HounganAtLarge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hounganatlarge/32/28697_2.png) [@HounganAtLarge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HounganAtLarge)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 11:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4131 "2017-09-30T23:14:51Z")
So in the midst of a huge anti-devour backlash, the devs release a mythic that can devour twice. Why do I even bother? ---
**Author:** ![napalm1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/napalm1/32/30344_2.png) [@napalm1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/napalm1)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4132 "2017-10-01T17:52:14Z")
youā€™ve read my mindā€¦ the devour feature shouldnā€™t even exist! it ruins the game and what the Devs do? a card with a ā€œchanceā€ of 2 devoursā€¦ ā€œchanceā€ of course, like the ā€œ40% chanceā€ from the Krakens that is 99%. ---
**Author:** ![mender](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@mender](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mender)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4133 "2017-10-01T22:21:33Z")
Iā€™m not sure I see the problem with Doomclaw. Yes, if he manages to devour both troops youā€™re screwed, but if you go up against a mythic without putting a proper counter against it on your team, you donā€™t get to complain if its spell connects. And with the Dwarf rework, Impervious fixed, a few Indigestible troops, Barrier and Mana Drain as possible counters, there are more than enough ways to defend against him. His high boost ratio seems like a bigger issue. ---
**Author:** ![Trajic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/trajic/32/20447_2.png) [@Trajic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Trajic)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 12:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4134 "2017-10-02T00:19:12Z")
> [@Lyya](#): > > Also note that he doesnā€™t damage either of the Devour candidates, so they will more often be at full health than other Devourers. They will also be protected by barriers - unlike Kraken who can ignore that sort of counter. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 5:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4135 "2017-10-02T05:37:41Z")
> [@mender](#): > > if he manages to devour both troops youā€™re screwed, but if you go up against a mythic without putting a proper counter against it on your team, you donā€™t get to complain if its spell connects Six months ago that argument would have worked fairly wellā€¦ but now that sudden cascades from nowhere can fill the enemy team, and wisps or trolls can loop on you with zero skill involved, we can likely see the _mythic_ Doomclaw fill very quickly and eat stuff now and thenā€¦ statistically it shouldnā€™t be oftenā€¦ but it will _feel_ often enough and be very very annoyingā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Draprion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/draprion/32/8238_2.png) [@Draprion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draprion)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 5:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4136 "2017-10-02T05:55:00Z")
Haha @moons you crack me up! ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4137 "2017-10-03T19:56:29Z")
New stuff coming up: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/6/b64e49838f3558fb4f82d86a349b41cbe1ddc5de.jpg) ## KING SILENUS Legendary Panā€™s Vale Wildfolk ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/c/4cf1b9484f0da862553d657d5dd5b5ad3384ea1f.jpg) **Slash & Burn** (14 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/1/e189d8cbc76bcfc73f63fb2821b352b15f598c98.png) Red/Yellow): Deal [Magic + 4] damage to an enemy, boosted by Wildfolk allies, and half of that damage to adjacent enemies. Burn all enemies. [6x]        MAX 16 ![Attack](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/8/a8e8a84f3ae47e50cfee4a27be942daf4f5d4a19.png), 27 ![Life](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/f/ff1996ee53d88b509d130d818fa410b77d9a8e00.png), 22 ![Armor](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/3/b3473f587fb951521a4a68534cafff135b727387.png), 12 ![Magic](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/2/f2e044efa9e303e2a7fd877206d7c3c27f2fe1a5.png)   > **Wildfolk Shield: Allied Wildfolk gain 2 Armor.** > > | | | | > | --- | --- | --- | > | 18 | ![Minor Wind Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/c/6cc4c7146764ff1864c38074a6df8e1d58c25f70.png) | Minor Wind Traitstone | > | 10 | ![Runic Wind Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/f/6f311a5331fb30bc2ad3f755ed475120c82909f2.png) | Runic Wind Traitstone | > | 10 | ![Runic Fire Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/c/2c6b1b6bdb605f6cdac6dfb2e6c7aed7777fc326.png) | Runic Fire Traitstone | > |   | | | > **Impervious: Immune to all Status Effects, Devour, and Mana Burn.** > > | | | | > | --- | --- | --- | > | 26 | ![Minor Wind Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/c/6cc4c7146764ff1864c38074a6df8e1d58c25f70.png) | Minor Wind Traitstone | > | 12 | ![Major Wind Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/2/b259ba75f1d1c22477286e7cba8e2f9bfe49d444.png) | Major Wind Traitstone | > | 10 | ![Arcane Storm Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/f/9f33e6e549ebe2586fe5624c89b729aa39dd75ff.png) | Arcane Storm Traitstone | > |   | | | > **Wild Mana: All Wildfolk start battle with 50% Mana.** > > | | | | > | --- | --- | --- | > | 34 | ![Minor Wind Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/c/6cc4c7146764ff1864c38074a6df8e1d58c25f70.png) | Minor Wind Traitstone | > | 6 | ![Arcane Storm Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/f/9f33e6e549ebe2586fe5624c89b729aa39dd75ff.png) | Arcane Storm Traitstone | > | 2 | ![Celestial Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/c/0cf63f944764bff4f23622d15b3b07777bb421e9.png) | Celestial Traitstone | > |   | | | _The internet has voted: Goaty McGoatface._ * * * ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/0/c07e5bfcf542130a63ccba143162d33e60e6c7b2.jpg) ## NAX Epic Panā€™s Vale Wildfolk-Mystic ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/1/8/184b62b9c4532f627c2f7982e4cec4fd01ece126.jpg) **Panā€™s Eye** (13 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/6/36d6d69e83adda16e362353e8483b05c6ac95a0a.png) Purple/Brown): Cleanse an ally. Give them [Magic + 1] to a random Skill and 2 Magic. Double the effects if the ally is a Wildfolk.        MAX 17 ![Attack](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/8/a8e8a84f3ae47e50cfee4a27be942daf4f5d4a19.png), 31 ![Life](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/f/ff1996ee53d88b509d130d818fa410b77d9a8e00.png), 12 ![Armor](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/3/b3473f587fb951521a4a68534cafff135b727387.png), 8 ![Magic](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/2/f2e044efa9e303e2a7fd877206d7c3c27f2fe1a5.png)   > **Wildfolk Bond: Allied Wildfolk gain 2 Life.** > > | | | | > | --- | --- | --- | > | 16 | ![Minor Magic Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/c/ac8c68a4ba06062c11e5a8ebe47c13d324dd87bb.png) | Minor Magic Traitstone | > | 8 | ![Runic Magic Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/9/99d8e4e8d11d35f60b0de36d60c8f549c5846dc8.png) | Runic Magic Traitstone | > | 8 | ![Runic Earth Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/b/7b1b8f28c446c5944da20efd44884d769fcf9dab.png) | Runic Earth Traitstone | > |   | | | > **Wildfolk Shield: Allied Wildfolk gain 2 Armor.** > > | | | | > | --- | --- | --- | > | 22 | ![Minor Magic Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/c/ac8c68a4ba06062c11e5a8ebe47c13d324dd87bb.png) | Minor Magic Traitstone | > | 8 | ![Major Magic Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/f/3f34d93f1c90240fd4b538b09509d6cfece01e57.png) | Major Magic Traitstone | > | 8 | ![Arcane Skull Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/b/7b7ce2a1ad6e93fa641ae10ac4ca3d5cbc0c94f0.png) | Arcane Skull Traitstone | > |   | | | > **Fast: Start battles with 50% Mana.** > > | | | | > | --- | --- | --- | > | 28 | ![Minor Magic Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/c/ac8c68a4ba06062c11e5a8ebe47c13d324dd87bb.png) | Minor Magic Traitstone | > | 4 | ![Arcane Skull Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/b/7b7ce2a1ad6e93fa641ae10ac4ca3d5cbc0c94f0.png) | Arcane Skull Traitstone | > | 1 | ![Celestial Traitstone](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/c/0cf63f944764bff4f23622d15b3b07777bb421e9.png) | Celestial Traitstone | > |   | | | _I use antlers in all of my decorating._ Scheduled for 10/09/2017. All future troop details are subject to change at any time. ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 7:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4138 "2017-10-03T19:59:26Z")
So putting an antler-skull on your head makes you a Wildfolk? Good to know. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4139 "2017-10-03T20:00:56Z")
yayaya, finally another yellow impervious for GW, but good one! šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4140 "2017-10-03T20:03:21Z")
Fairly limited options to combine Goaty McGoatface with other Wildfolk, but he looks like a solid troop overall. There isnā€™t a single Wildfolk that uses blue mana. And Desert Mantis creates blue, so that takes him outā€¦ And a lot of Wildfolk are already fast or empowered, so the 50% bonus is less of a bonus. Iā€™m getting less and less interested. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4141 "2017-10-03T20:17:10Z")
Ooh itā€™s red and yellow and _burns_ thingsā€¦ ooh hang on thatā€™s been done beforeā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4142 "2017-10-03T20:18:17Z")
And shares the colours with the better ones, Sylvasi, Satyr Musician, Ragnagord. ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4143 "2017-10-03T20:23:41Z")
@Lyya - at the risk of straying off topic, can you tell me why Sylvasi doesnā€™t come up on GOWDB troops list when I enter ā€œwildfolkā€ (or even just ā€œwildā€) in the filter? @drathas - Sylvasi would turn blues to purple, to feed one of Nax, Tezca or Faunessa, none of which are exciting me overly. ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4144 "2017-10-03T20:31:33Z")
Correct, this Nax also ainā€™t very interesting. If only it was consistently buffing magic then at least you could turn Satyr Musician in a mini Artema. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280.md?page=204) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280.md?page=206)