# (!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280>\
**Category:** Spoilers\
**Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280 "2015-11-13T03:16:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 12:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2287 "2017-02-22T00:25:10Z")

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I think he needs:

- Impervious instead of Thick Head
- Replace “3 randoms enemies” by “All enemies”  
But, his “style” (ie heavy tank) is too much similar to Gorgotha which belongs to the same kingdom… Why?

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 12:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2288 "2017-02-22T00:32:15Z")

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If we’re wishing, I’d suggest that his mythic trait should give _all allies_ either Stoneskin or Armored. Let him keep Thick Headed, since he’d shift from a front-line tank to the middle/back of the team and so a targeted devour or death mark would be helpful.

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**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2289 "2017-02-22T01:33:16Z")

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Interesting idea 😃

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**Author:** ![Legion\_5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c67d28/32.png) [@Legion\_5](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Legion_5)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2290 "2017-02-22T02:43:46Z")

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Why not have a really strong trait come with a drawback? Why is everything a buff? Some sort of counter-system like old Final Fantasy. Let players make more risk-reward choices. Surely (Don’t call me Shirley) this has come up before…

- Undead bonus? take extra damage from divine
- Extra ice damage? more vulnerable to fire
- Extra armour? reduction in life (vice versa, less armour, more life)

and so on

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**Author:** ![Delima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/delima/32/17204_2.png) [@Delima](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Delima)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2291 "2017-02-22T02:59:09Z")

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It’s a the worst mythic, dwarf Mythic…,  
I can’t think any good points about him than Gorgotha has.  
Devs hate Dwarves maybe lol

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**Author:** ![Zuboki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zuboki/32/28558_2.png) [@Zuboki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zuboki)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 3:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2292 "2017-02-22T03:17:43Z")

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Gaining a trait is a mostly irreversible action. This would prevent people from building different teams where some required the advantage and others required the lack of the disadvantage. It kills flexibility.

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**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 8:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2293 "2017-02-22T08:57:39Z")

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well then after reading all the wraith comments im just more sure i would replace his **dwarf bond \>\>** to **death ward**

leave him vulnerability to freeze entangle and whatnot 😛

maybe add to his spell “remove 1 random debuff from myself” or “remove 1 random debuff from each ally”

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**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 9:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2294 "2017-02-22T09:00:00Z")

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Dwarf bond is the strongest trait ever! Any bond trait is crazy strong!

Wait a moment enemy team! Look how my 130 hp gets further increased by additional 2 (!) hp from bond! Take that. Go on, surrendering is understandable.

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**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 10:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2295 "2017-02-22T10:46:22Z")

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dont mock dwarves proud of their family bonds 😅😂

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**Author:** ![XLS78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b2d939/32.png) [@XLS78](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/XLS78)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 1:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2296 "2017-02-22T13:35:13Z")

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Bond traits clearly need to get adjusted to a percentage, like maybe 10%. Then they might actually factor into decisions.

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**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2297 "2017-02-22T14:09:40Z")

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A few things could really benefit from that. Hydra’s legendary trait, for instance. The thing is that the Bond traits are _usually_ low barrier-to-entry traits that can be gotten very early in the game… when 10% is going to do almost nothing.

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**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 2:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2298 "2017-02-22T14:34:34Z")

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Some low tier traits as racial bonds, poison immunity and flying, just to mention a few, could even be free to certain races/troops and it wouldn’t even add any significant impact into the gameplay.

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**Author:** ![Mitheithel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitheithel/32/2352_2.png) [@Mitheithel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mitheithel)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 3:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2299 "2017-02-22T15:31:45Z")

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But if a low-tier troop had a total of, say, 16 or 17 health+armor, that would still be rounded to 2 hp, right? A player with troops having stats like that is likely to not own many troops yet, let alone get them traited. By the time they’re likely to have a few troops of the same type and enough stones for a few traits, they’re probably leveling them up a little too, which would raise the bonus from the percentage due to higher base stats.

Also, are we talking 10% _per ally_ or 10% all the time? Because if it’s 10% per that can add up quickly. That may end up being a bit too OP for early game.

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**Author:** ![yonizaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/yonizaf/32/1435_2.png) [@yonizaf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/yonizaf)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 8:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2300 "2017-02-24T08:53:48Z")

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I’m trying something new… Fully assembled spoiler images. Feedback is welcome.

> **Click to see spoiler**
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> ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/2/c270d0e6ff70193efafc0f0007331f67249dda0f.jpg)  
> ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/3/53aaa31a38b640c508c5939cf4ceed7f962e38f0.jpg)

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**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 8:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2301 "2017-02-24T08:54:28Z")

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Omigosh marry me

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**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 8:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2302 "2017-02-24T08:55:51Z")

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Nice work, way better than Lyya’s spoilers. 😆👿

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**Author:** ![Verdugo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/verdugo/32/9407_2.png) [@Verdugo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Verdugo)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 8:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2303 "2017-02-24T08:57:09Z")

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That’s awesome! Most definitely use that format in the future please. Cheers.

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**Author:** ![Beowulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beowulf/32/26390_2.png) [@Beowulf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Beowulf)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 9:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2304 "2017-02-24T09:10:04Z")

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Incredible!

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**Author:** ![Beowulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beowulf/32/26390_2.png) [@Beowulf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Beowulf)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 10:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2305 "2017-02-24T10:35:40Z")

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Any new info about the new kingdom?

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**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 10:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/2306 "2017-02-24T10:37:35Z")

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Apart from name, logo, and upcoming week troop colors? Maybe its to early.

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