# Some upcoming Gems of War changes (including more gems!)

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774>\
**Category:** Official News\
**Created:** [September 4, 2017, 11:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774 "2017-09-04T23:45:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DasKanguru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/daskanguru/32/16892_2.png) [@DasKanguru](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DasKanguru)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/305 "2017-09-08T16:50:20Z")

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What i compared in the other reply… wait let me quote it…

> [@DasKanguru](#):
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> Blue: 140/190 Gems - 50 Gems less, a lot but i can understand, they want to increase the value of their premium currency
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> Green: 6/12 Event Keys - half the event keys, this hits really hard, especially for newer players
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> Red: 10/18 Gem Keys - 8 Gem keys less, also punishing mostly for early- and mid-game players
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> Yellow: 56/76 Glory Keys - 20 glory keys less, not that big of a deal but it adds up after some weeks
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> Purple: 1750/1900 Souls - 150 souls less, who cares (kinda unnecessary, they even changed it at all)
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> Brown: 515/670 Gold Keys - 155 gold keys less, same thing as the souls

That is compared immediately before and after the patch.  
Thing is, i had a longer break from the game (few months due to real life) and when i came back, i tried to get my guild going. Previously i had 30 ppl but like 27 of them were either never playing or only profiting from the guild without giving back. I kicked all inactive players and started recruiting, which led to this situation at hand.  
So i don’t have a fair comparison of pre 4x speed income to now.  
I can only compare 4x speed to 4x speed with the new nerf, with mostly focussing on what i spend vs what i earn.  
Which is again, why i stressed that this hits weak guilds harder. If i had a full 30 member guild, everyone contributing 500k, i guess i wouldn’t be as upset.  
But i’m glad we settled the beef we almost kinda had earlier 😉 4.21

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**Author:** ![beanie42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beanie42/32/19802_2.png) [@beanie42](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beanie42)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/306 "2017-09-08T16:51:14Z")

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> [@Nephilim](#):
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> Have gems been nerfed on gold chest drops and tribute? I’m getting shite.

Gems from gold chests hasn’t changed. Not sure about tributes, although my results have been fairly normal over the last week.

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**Author:** ![DasKanguru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/daskanguru/32/16892_2.png) [@DasKanguru](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DasKanguru)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/307 "2017-09-08T16:55:22Z")

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> [@Fourdottwoone](#):
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> It’s quite an extreme change at first. It couldn’t make out what was going on at all, so I used to crank down the speed for all the guild wars battles. Somehow the brain eventually seem to get accustomed to it though, 2x speed actually feels slow now.

But yeah, i also felt the woah effect when i first tried 4x speed. And when i see someone playing on normal speed it feels like something is way off. The brain really gets accuustomed to it and maybe i should just try to convince to slowly increase the speed until maybe they get used to it too. Because personally, i don’t think 4x is so fast, it could induce photosensitivity issues (yet again i can’t speak for others, i never have that issue)

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**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/308 "2017-09-08T16:59:42Z")

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> [@Nephilim](#):
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> tribute?

My tribute has looked the same this week. I haven’t been able to play much (so not more than 10 collections or so), but I remember getting several tributes of 8-13 kingdoms with reasonable amounts of everything. I never considered tribute a significant source of gems anyway.

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**Author:** ![MrsAffects](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mrsaffects/32/73668_2.png) [@MrsAffects](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrsAffects)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/309 "2017-09-08T18:14:44Z")

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I remember we were already complaining about the rewards we were getting for the legendary task when they first started happening after that update. We were already feeling like we weren’t getting enough rewards for our gold donations and now they made sure that they emphasized that we are not getting anything but scraps with the 1 million price tag. I vote for slowing down the game and giving us our gems back. I can live without four times speed to have my gems back.

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**Author:** ![Greyson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@Greyson](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Greyson)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/310 "2017-09-08T18:32:12Z")

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What’s the point of 4x the speed if I to have to also grind four times as many games to get the resources we just got shafted on? And I’m still not getting the gems? Really?

They just ruined an awesome game.

I left the game on last night just burn them on server costs. Didn’t play any matches like I would have either. Not doing anything until I’m refunded or my bonuses are back.

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**Author:** ![Shadowhunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Shadowhunter](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shadowhunter)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/311 "2017-09-08T19:36:24Z")

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I know that it’s been stated that the weapons and troops will be changed from week to week however I was wondering if we had to use the items in the forge on a week to week basis or will the items be carried over from week to week.

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**Author:** ![Conall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Conall](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Conall)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/312 "2017-09-08T21:36:31Z")

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I’m part of the community, and I’m not pissed…just sayin

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**Author:** ![Sidousai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sidousai/32/604_2.png) [@Sidousai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sidousai)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/313 "2017-09-08T23:23:12Z")

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> [@Conall](#):
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> I’m part of the community, and I’m not pissed…just sayin

Same… there’s so much more going on in rl to be pissed at a video game.

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**Author:** ![Papa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/papa/32/26282_2.png) [@Papa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Papa)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 11:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/314 "2017-09-11T11:23:57Z")

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Did this happen?

> [@Sirrian](#):
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> As of next week, we’ll be adding some more Gems back into blue Guild Tasks to replace those keys we added (approximately 250 more Gems you can get each week).

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**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 11:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/315 "2017-09-11T11:27:40Z")

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> [@Basic tasks still gives 140 gems, not 390 gems\[SOLVED\]](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/basic-tasks-still-gives-140-gems-not-390-gems/30139/11):
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> Hey guys… Looks like in the process of converting CONSOLES over to the new tasks, some old data got released into the wild, and those extra gems vanished on tasks 9, 10, & 12. There’s not much we can do about it THIS week, however, NEXT week, Blue Tasks 9,10, & 12 will be worth double the Gems to compensate you.

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**Author:** ![MrsAffects](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mrsaffects/32/73668_2.png) [@MrsAffects](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrsAffects)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/316 "2017-09-11T16:41:49Z")

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Awesome. 😍😍😍😍

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**Author:** ![HounganAtLarge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hounganatlarge/32/28697_2.png) [@HounganAtLarge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HounganAtLarge)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 1:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/317 "2017-09-12T01:20:30Z")

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No, it did not happen.

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**Author:** ![beanie42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beanie42/32/19802_2.png) [@beanie42](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beanie42)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 12:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/318 "2017-09-12T12:56:21Z")

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Have the AI/luck tweaks been done yet, and if not what’s the ETA? And when will Impervious be fixed? Game is not fun right now…

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**Author:** ![Lardy-Porker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lardy-porker/32/25588_2.png) [@Lardy-Porker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lardy-Porker)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 9:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/319 "2017-09-13T09:06:48Z")

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Or you guys are just having fun trolling us.

“Oopsie! Someone forgot to change those task rewards this week, don’t worry we’ll give you _triple_ the gems next week… and a pony!” 😂

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**Author:** ![JuaitoR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/juaitor/32/11770_2.png) [@JuaitoR](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JuaitoR)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 9:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/320 "2017-09-13T09:26:50Z")

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100 gems per 1000 gold chests? More like 10-20 gems per 1000 gold chests.

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**Author:** ![thmmaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@thmmaster](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/thmmaster)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/321 "2017-09-13T17:18:46Z")

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Thank you for adding this concept. I agree with you that having so many gems will harm the economy of the game. Guilds, like the one I run, are always in the top 3 in Guild wars for xbox and with the reduction of gems, it makes Guild Wars more important. My personal situation is that I am missing 3 mythics, all my troops are fully traited, and 24 of my troops are not at mythic. I don’t need souls or traitstones. So building those last few troops make it worth my while to play more. But, there are over 10,000 players who aren’t where I am, so it make sense to balance it out. Keep up the good work. If you plan to do anything else exciting in the future, you can always create super hard challenges for players like myself with unique rewards.

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**Author:** ![Arelana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/arelana/32/16081_2.png) [@Arelana](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Arelana)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/322 "2017-09-13T19:02:11Z")

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> [@thmmaster](#):
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> it makes Guild Wars more important.

The thing is, no matter how “important” Guild Wars are, only one guild each week will ever get that sweet 1,500 gem prize. Unfortunately, outside of bracket 1, the rewards are a pittance.

The result is that 2 or 3 guilds don’t have to worry so much about gems, but the other how-many thousand do. The “1%” will have a lot less trouble staying current with the monthly release Mythics than everyone else, and that’s the problem. Before the task/LT nerfs, more of the 99% stood a chance, too.

Yes, we’re getting 1000 gems per month back…but we’ve still lost 800 gems per month, plus LTs.

While I’m happy for the “top Guild Wars” people who will continue to be able to pull multiple VIP pulls FOR FREE for every new Mythic, giving the strong possibility that they’ll never miss out, it really _ **sucks** _ staring at your own depleted stash with a significant reduction in the chance to fill it back up because “the economy” was somehow “unbalanced” because enough people apparently weren’t buying the overpriced gem packs to make the publisher happy.

Apparently not being number 1 or 2 means we’re made of money and should be expected to pony up even more hundreds of dollars to have the same results as those folks, or live with the fact that we will likely _never_ keep up with the Mythic releases, no matter how much we play. It makes me sick, honestly.

_Disclaimer: I realize that even having 6,000 free gems a month for holding #1 doesn’t guarantee you a Mythic, but it gives you an exponential advantage over someone getting 300, 200, etc a month._

If Guild Wars are intended to be looked to as the major chance for free gems each week, then the reward structure needs a severe rework. Instead of rewarding overall rank, reward the rank within each bracket. That gives every guild a 1 in 10 chance to get the big pot and would make things a LOT more competitive…rather than knowing that your only real chance to snag that prize is to somehow get a spot in the guilds that regularly finish 1st or 2nd.

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 9:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/323 "2017-09-14T09:01:15Z")

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> [@Arelana](#):
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> If Guild Wars are intended to be looked to as the major chance for free gems each week, then the reward structure needs a severe rework. Instead of rewarding overall rank, reward the rank within each bracket. That gives every guild a 1 in 10 chance to get the big pot and would make things a LOT more competitive…rather than knowing that your only real chance to snag that prize is to somehow get a spot in the guilds that regularly finish 1st or 2nd.

As much as I’d like to agree, it just doesn’t work like that. Rank is something that can be gamed easily for non-top brackets. All you would achieve is stronger guilds not having a chance for top placement in the first bracket migrating to the top spots in lower brackets. Why settle for a low payout in a tough-as-hell bracket when you are guaranteed multiples of that steamrolling weak teams?

In order to spread the wealth, part of the rewards would have to be tied in some way to participating within guild wars. Winning a fight is a good candidate, it’s a capped resource, and you should be wanting to do that anyway. Reduce the weekly rewards, throw in something for each personal victory, possibly somewhat similar to how revenge battles are handled. My original idea was to hand out the weekly guild wars troop, some gems or crafting materials wouldn’t hurt either.

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**Author:** ![Rinny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Rinny](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rinny)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 10:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/some-upcoming-gems-of-war-changes-including-more-gems/29774/324 "2017-09-14T10:24:16Z")

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No news on fixing Impervious to prevent Devour or Mana Burn? Guess Kraken and Mab are going to be overpowered a bit longer.

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