# Skeleton key fails to grant extra turn **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug Reports\ **Created:** [November 20, 2018, 10:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104 "2018-11-20T10:07:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Korgoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e68b1a/32.png) [@Korgoth](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Korgoth)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 10:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/1 "2018-11-20T10:07:49Z")
xbox one videos: [https://streamable.com/s3zk4](https://streamable.com/s3zk4) **What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened:** skeleton key is supposed to grant an extra turn on enemy kill but did not. **How often does this happen? When did it begin happening?** It usually works but I’ve noticed it not work these 2 times today. **Steps to make it happen again** Not sure. ---
**Author:** ![Lissandra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lissandra/32/42131_2.png) [@Lissandra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lissandra)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 10:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/2 "2018-11-20T10:49:47Z")
I swear it’s random. Even with a double kill on Goblins, I still failed to get the extra turn. The game has some issues with bugs such as 4 or 5 matches not granting extra turns, enemies getting extra turns on 3 matches… so many problems that seem to happen out of nowhere. ---
**Author:** ![noob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/noob/32/54823_2.png) [@noob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/noob)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 11:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/3 "2018-11-20T11:20:59Z")
Just a wild guess. Maybe it has something to do with hunter’s mark? ---
**Author:** ![jzg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jzg/32/53451_2.png) [@jzg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jzg)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/4 "2018-11-20T11:23:19Z")
I would bet that it’s something to do with that lag. I generally restart the game every time I take tribute, so I never encountered something like this, and I used Skeleton key in about 1500 battles since it came out ---
**Author:** ![Captain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/captain/32/47148_2.png) [@Captain](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Captain)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/5 "2018-11-20T14:08:22Z")
I observed this as well: The key will not give an extra turn, if the Tier IX weapon upgrade (deal 5 damage to the last enemy) is the reason for the death of an enemy. ---
**Author:** ![Amadan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amadan/32/7653_2.png) [@Amadan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Amadan)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/6 "2018-11-20T15:47:12Z")
I am shocked, SHOCKED! to hear that upgrading a weapon makes it worse. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: ignore the entire weapon upgrade system and you’ll have a better gameplay experience. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/7 "2018-11-20T15:54:07Z")
There’s no reason to ignore the first five upgrade tiers. Stat boosts are always welcome, as long as they are not magic boosts on a weapon that doesn’t use magic 🙃 (but at least those are neutral). After that, though, there be dragons. ---
**Author:** ![Micio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/micio/32/50997_2.png) [@Micio](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Micio)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/8 "2018-11-20T17:02:54Z")
Dont make it worse lol. You only get the extra turn if the “base damage” kill at least one. The 5 damage extra are a bonus and defo i like more a dead enemy without extra turn (upgraded weapon) than a barely but still alive enemy AND no extra turn anyway (non upgraded weapon). ---
**Author:** ![Lissandra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lissandra/32/42131_2.png) [@Lissandra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lissandra)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/9 "2018-11-20T18:12:22Z")
I’m pretty sure that trait doesn’t hit the first troop and if the troop on top dies but then the second one dies at the bottom, that must be the reason it cancels out the extra turn which, in itself, is a major downgrade. ---
**Author:** ![Micio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/micio/32/50997_2.png) [@Micio](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Micio)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 12:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/10 "2018-11-21T00:39:38Z")
And i am pretty sure you spend too much time here (np though, rented a boat now) and not enough in game. Am using the skel key 99% of the time now and seen that thing happen an handful of times and ONLY when both troops survived first hit and the LAST get finished by the extra 5 damage that btw happen at the very end, almost delayed seem sometimes. However, if with enough tears over nothing we can get the skel key buffed (1:1 as damage boost would be better) and why not? maybe also a “empowered” for egg thief i wont cry x sure, so feel free to go on lmao. Beside a little use of common sense tell me it work as intended, the extra turn is part of the base spell so only make sense if work only with it. Well, sailing for another dock now, hf. ---
**Author:** ![Korgoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e68b1a/32.png) [@Korgoth](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Korgoth)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/11 "2018-11-21T02:28:51Z")
The weapon is not upgraded. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 2:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/12 "2018-11-21T02:48:29Z")
> [@Korgoth](#): > > The weapon is not upgraded. I noticed that as well, which made me more certain that it was in fact a bug. I also had a look at the troop health and gold count beforehand. I don’t think > [@Lissandra](#): > > if the troop on top dies but then the second one dies at the bottom [due to the extra 5 damage], that must be the reason it cancels out the extra turn holds up to scrutiny. @Micio was your post in reply to Lissandra? I think it’s probably something to do with the lag as well, although who knows. I hope it gets fixed for you(/everyone)! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 3:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/13 "2018-11-21T03:21:49Z")
That’s just great, it would be nice to respect all skeletons because we keep your organs in the right place, but noooooo… Not even Skeleton Key receives proper attention it deserves… This is outrageous!!! ---
**Author:** ![Kafka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kafka/32/33529_2.png) [@Kafka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kafka)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 5:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/14 "2018-11-21T05:34:59Z")
Hi @Korgoth Your videos won’t load for me, can you try uploading them somewhere else? Or if they’re on your Xbox profile, can you PM me your gamer tag and make your profile public so I can see them? Also, just a general reminder that if you’re posting feedback about the bug to please do so in the feedback or gameplay discussion sections of the forum and not in the bug report itself, just so it makes it easier for devs to find important information and help 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Korgoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e68b1a/32.png) [@Korgoth](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Korgoth)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 6:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/15 "2018-11-21T06:55:02Z")
They seemed to have automatically been embedded when I made the post. Will they load for you as a link? [https://streamable.com/yqzzw](https://streamable.com/yqzzw) [https://streamable.com/s3zk4](https://streamable.com/s3zk4) ---
**Author:** ![Lissandra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lissandra/32/42131_2.png) [@Lissandra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lissandra)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 7:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/16 "2018-11-21T07:20:36Z")
I’ve had it happen a few times myself and one of the times was with the first troop dying but the last troop surviving with about 4 health. The ‘upgrade’ triggered and killed the last troop then suddenly, the enemy took their turn. That’s why I feel like the weapon upgrades for it are not great. Although it could also just be a lot of lag, especially for those who play it consistently or just plow through the one day delve events since even extra turns have failed in the past as well. ---
**Author:** ![Kafka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kafka/32/33529_2.png) [@Kafka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kafka)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2018, 5:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/17 "2018-11-22T05:13:57Z")
Thank you!!! The links worked and you have successfully captured not getting an extra turn (not an easy feat!) \o/ I have passed the video and other details onto the team. If anyone else is able to provide video of this happening please still do so! ---
**Author:** ![MrRodster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@MrRodster](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrRodster)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/18 "2019-01-26T21:03:23Z")
This is still happening, actually fairly frequently. Is there a fix in the works? ---
**Author:** ![Papa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/papa/32/26282_2.png) [@Papa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Papa)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 10:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/19 "2019-01-26T22:53:35Z")
Happened to me about 30 minutes ago. Definitely not related to the weapon upgrade. The weapon killed both troops and I was not frozen, but no extra turn was given. It’s jarring when it happens. ---
**Author:** ![Kay93x](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kay93x/32/62627_2.png) [@Kay93x](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kay93x)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104/20 "2019-01-27T00:18:13Z")
Happening on PS4 too, a lot! [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skeleton-key-fails-to-grant-extra-turn/49104.md?page=2)