# Single Troop Defenses

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808>\
**Category:** Official News\
**Created:** [May 29, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808 "2017-05-29T02:15:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![trickycdr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@trickycdr](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/trickycdr)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/41 "2017-05-29T03:57:50Z")

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Try 4 x low level troops…I am finding the T2 and T3 teams easier to beat than the T1 right now (due to single troop being replaced with full team), but that just means more trophies!

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**Author:** ![Sththunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Sththunder](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sththunder)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/42 "2017-05-29T03:59:34Z")

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Easier said than done when you have a high VIP level. I can’t throw out a low defense if I tried. Good to know that spending money on the game actually gives you a _disadvantage_

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**Author:** ![trickycdr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@trickycdr](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/trickycdr)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/43 "2017-05-29T04:00:54Z")

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Save your next L5 troop tomorrow! I have 4 of the new guardians (Penguin etc) that are all still L5…the last three T3 battles were lower health/armor than the T1 battles, go figure…

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**Author:** ![death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@death](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/death)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/44 "2017-05-29T04:01:07Z")

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I tried it on console last week and unfortunately its a PC only thing. Nothing changed for me at all.  
Lol, I did get a lot of revenge battles though which was a good change. 😃

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**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/45 "2017-05-29T04:02:03Z")

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In regards to team strengths being inaccurate, your best bet is to restart your game. If it continues happening after reset please let us know.

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**Author:** ![Sththunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Sththunder](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sththunder)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/46 "2017-05-29T04:02:21Z")

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Try level 10 :S

But yes that’s the plan. Kinda silly to hold yourself back. But if that’s what I’ve gotta do.

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**Author:** ![MakoSipper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/makosipper/32/1933_2.png) [@MakoSipper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MakoSipper)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/47 "2017-05-29T04:02:42Z")

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Best decision. Not sure if it was that urgent (I agree that devouring and DM’ing troops are more annoying right now), but I’m all for it.

Gems of War is not about getting easy rewards. Fighting the fights should be the point of this game, otherwise you’re treating it like a chore.

People complain that fighting Famine teams is monotonous. For some reason, fighting single Elspeths isn’t? I honestly don’t buy it. I think most people are just sad that this makes PvP grinding a bit harder.

If PvP is getting repetitive to the point of being boring, I have many options:

- Explore
- Arena (not really an option I pick, but it’s an option)
- Treasure Hunt (same as above)
- Try to come up with new teams
- Play another game

My main goal is to have fun… Not being on the top, not working my rear off to go over requirements 10 fold, not doing something I find boring and monotonous just to get further in the game and/or make a good impression on my guildmates. No, having fun while actually playing the game is all that matters.

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**Author:** ![Sththunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Sththunder](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sththunder)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/48 "2017-05-29T04:04:48Z")

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I actually made Elspeth fun by trying to kill her before killing herself. It was a fun challenge to try to slow her down by baiting skulls.

So…don’t tell me I can’t have fun with Elspeth. Because I can find a way.

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**Author:** ![s-wolff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/s-wolff/32/32634_2.png) [@s-wolff](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/s-wolff)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/49 "2017-05-29T04:27:24Z")

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This isnt the main reason people do it the main reason is to get more revenge fights for more gold because lets face it after level 500 you get the shaft and gold production drops alot

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**Author:** ![s-wolff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/s-wolff/32/32634_2.png) [@s-wolff](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/s-wolff)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/50 "2017-05-29T04:29:05Z")

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Fix the pvp gold to not be based on levels

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**Author:** ![Taransworld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taransworld/32/17324_2.png) [@Taransworld](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taransworld)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/51 "2017-05-29T04:29:10Z")

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I’m not sure I agree s-wolff. Again, I do it so I can multitask which makes the game more fun for me. Some might do it for the reason you stated and others for another reason. GoW needs to make an easier way to choose the difficulty level.

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/52 "2017-05-29T04:29:27Z")

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> [@MakoSipper](#):
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> No, having fun while actually playing the game is all that matters.

Exactly, and who gets to decide what counts as fun? Especially now that Guild Wars sets me five unskippable opponents each day, I like to relax with PVP and play against weaker opponents. I get 1/3 the trophies and usually 40% of the gold compared to the 3-trophy fights, but I’m happy with that compromise.

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**Author:** ![Maxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maxx/32/50891_2.png) [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/53 "2017-05-29T04:32:54Z")

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> [@MakoSipper](#):
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> People complain that fighting Famine teams is monotonous. For some reason, fighting single Elspeths isn’t?

Who said the people complaining that fighting Famine teams is monotonous are only fighting the single Elspeth teams. I used a normal defense for the first day of beast week and all I got was Kerb/GS/FG/Kerb but when I changed to a single troop defense I was getting a variety of different beast teams.

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**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/54 "2017-05-29T04:34:19Z")

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As far as I’m aware you’ll still be able to have 1 trophy fights that will be easier than the 3 trophy ones.

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**Author:** ![trickycdr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@trickycdr](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/trickycdr)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/55 "2017-05-29T04:35:01Z")

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My last 5 matchups, took the easier 3T because the 1T was much stronger…will probably sort itself out…

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**Author:** ![s-wolff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/s-wolff/32/32634_2.png) [@s-wolff](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/s-wolff)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/56 "2017-05-29T04:48:29Z")

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Im level 495 and getting 2k+ for most 3t fights and everyone i know over 500 is getting considerably less but revenge fights give more gold which is why i know alot of people were doing this so they could actually make guild reqs its not right to penalize people for playing longer and levelling up and progressing in the game

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**Author:** ![Royalty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/royalty/32/1683_2.png) [@Royalty](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Royalty)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/57 "2017-05-29T04:56:28Z")

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Simple workaround. 2 troops instead of 1. Still more beneficial than 4 troops.

Have you also fixed the high number of defense wins exploit that some guilds are using?

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/58 "2017-05-29T04:56:58Z")

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> [@The (Un)Official Console Weekly Event Thread 3 (No further updates)](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-un-official-console-weekly-event-thread-3-current-event-adana/15315/893):
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> @Nimhain i saw you talk about some changes with the gold reward in pvp, do you have any infos about this? Does the pvp points system will change also? i remember a discussion where sirrian said you were looking for it after the 3.0 update.So is it still in the plan?

> [@The (Un)Official Console Weekly Event Thread 3 (No further updates)](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-un-official-console-weekly-event-thread-3-current-event-adana/15315/894):
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> The team is going to be looking into how PVP points are calculated, yes. It’s on the to-do list.

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**Author:** ![Mahamoti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mahamoti/32/19354_2.png) [@Mahamoti](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mahamoti)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/59 "2017-05-29T04:58:27Z")

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If this change was so easy to make, surely it would be just as easy to require 4 unique troops on every team as well.

2xPaladin/Mercy this week. 2xKerb/FG on beast weeks. 2xFamine any other time. 2xCourage before Bone Dragon nerf. 2xMab before _she_ was nerfed. 4xScale Guard on naga weeks.

_This_ is where the PvP monotony comes from, not 1-troop defenses.

And… if PvP reaches the point of “3 choices, all of them have Death Knight”… I’m out. End of story.

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**Author:** ![s-wolff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/s-wolff/32/32634_2.png) [@s-wolff](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/s-wolff)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/60 "2017-05-29T04:59:55Z")

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Pvp with death knight black manacles has definitely become annoying

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