# Several gnomes appering in the same battle, and do not give rewards **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug Reports\ **Created:** [September 6, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374 "2018-09-06T14:25:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Onizakkii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/onizakkii/32/45682_2.png) [@Onizakkii](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Onizakkii)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/1 "2018-09-06T14:25:25Z")
**Platform, device version and operating system** PC (Steam), Windows 10 **Screenshot or image** ![PNG](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/9/69bcfe5f250c10537e73bc32c99eb7da3e5ef3ef.jpeg) ![PNG](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/7/379c52a8a562f078935bff50503e6fd955e38d17.jpeg) **What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened** I was doing some Explore to get Green/Brown traitstones in Zaejin kingdom. Then 3 gnomes appeared. I killed them all, and I got no rewards from them. (I did notice the ‘bag’ that usually appear in the top-left corner of a gnome troop wasn’t here) **How often does this happen? When did it begin happening?** I needed 3 traitstones, got 2 already, and the ‘bug’ appeard **twice** , first is the screenshot you can see, the second one was with 2 gnomes. (and same happened, no rewards, and no bag appearing at the top left of the troop) It happened to me since I started my Explores, first time seeing that ‘bug’. I’ll edit if I see more later. **Steps to make it happen again** I started to do 1 Delve, and after I wanted to change team, and see that I missed a trait on a troop, and finally decided to go farm traitstones at Zaejin kingdom. ---
**Author:** ![Zeddicus2017](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zeddicus2017/32/44872_2.png) [@Zeddicus2017](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zeddicus2017)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/2 "2018-09-06T14:27:17Z")
People use that on defense, if it has a bag, it’s a reward gnome, if it is missing a bag, it’s a normal troop. ---
**Author:** ![Shadow1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shadow1/32/45170_2.png) [@Shadow1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shadow1)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/3 "2018-09-06T14:27:47Z")
Isn’t supposed to have a bag those who drop stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Onizakkii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/onizakkii/32/45682_2.png) [@Onizakkii](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Onizakkii)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/4 "2018-09-06T14:28:36Z")
It is an Explore Battle, so what’s the matter with defense teams ? o: ---
**Author:** ![Zeddicus2017](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zeddicus2017/32/44872_2.png) [@Zeddicus2017](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zeddicus2017)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/5 "2018-09-06T14:29:10Z")
I’n never seen gnomes appear in explore like that, but if they don’t have a bag, it’s not considered a reward gnome. ---
**Author:** ![Zeddicus2017](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zeddicus2017/32/44872_2.png) [@Zeddicus2017](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zeddicus2017)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/6 "2018-09-06T14:30:00Z")
Because people use gnomes all the time on defense, I guess now they are in the troop pool in explore, as well. ---
**Author:** ![Onizakkii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/onizakkii/32/45682_2.png) [@Onizakkii](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Onizakkii)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/7 "2018-09-06T14:30:31Z")
Gnomes can not have rewards when appearing in explore battles ? o: With 3 appearing, I had really any luck if so --" ---
**Author:** ![Onizakkii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/onizakkii/32/45682_2.png) [@Onizakkii](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Onizakkii)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/8 "2018-09-06T14:32:09Z")
I just fell on a 4 times gnomes. 2 Tresure gnomes + 2 Soul gnomes and only the 4th has a bag on the troop :x ---
**Author:** ![Zeddicus2017](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zeddicus2017/32/44872_2.png) [@Zeddicus2017](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zeddicus2017)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/9 "2018-09-06T14:33:29Z")
Please read this _IF THEY HAVE A BAG ON THE CARD_ they are _a reward gnome_, _no bag = not a reward gnome_. Your gnomes did not have bags, so they were not reward gnomes, they were simply normal troops that happened to be gnomes. ---
**Author:** ![Zeddicus2017](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zeddicus2017/32/44872_2.png) [@Zeddicus2017](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zeddicus2017)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/10 "2018-09-06T14:34:50Z")
It’s good you posted this though, as the gnomes being in explore card pool might be a bug. And I’m sure a lot of people will be coming here posting something much like you did, as it is new to see gnome troop cards in explore like that. ---
**Author:** ![fortuitoussole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ee7513/32.png) [@fortuitoussole](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/fortuitoussole)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/11 "2018-09-06T14:36:26Z")
Zaejin 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Shadow1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shadow1/32/45170_2.png) [@Shadow1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shadow1)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/12 "2018-09-06T14:37:20Z")
I knew players troll and put them in defense, had no idea gnomes without bag are a thing in explore. ---
**Author:** ![Fiara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fiara/32/41273_2.png) [@Fiara](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fiara)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/13 "2018-09-06T15:41:14Z")
There has been some odd gnome movements reported in our guild also including this subject. Gnomes popping up in raid and pet rescues which we never saw back in 3.5 🤔 Screenshot is from yesterday’s pet rescue ![Screenshot_2018-09-06-00-26-44](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/3/4307e69a28fb0d1905bd37fdb1dec4d60b3d1740.jpeg) As to identify further the real and fake gnomes. 1. Check the roster before the fight, if a gnome sits in the enemy team it’s a fake. 2. At the start of the battle a real gnome makes a manic laugh, a fake doesn’t. 3. Check for the money bag next to the portrait like advised above. ---
**Author:** ![ArkadeADD1CT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/arkadeadd1ct/32/46927_2.png) [@ArkadeADD1CT](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ArkadeADD1CT)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/14 "2018-09-06T23:08:24Z")
it really sucked when I started a raid fight and the gnome took Zuul Goth’s spot. No chance of points=sadness😢 ---
**Author:** ![Kafka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kafka/32/33529_2.png) [@Kafka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kafka)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 12:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/15 "2018-09-07T00:10:22Z")
Gnomes can appear in Explore battles without loot occasionally, it’s not a bug. @ArkadeADD1CTif you write a support ticket with the date/time this issue occurred we’ll look into that for you. Please put it in the ‘Missing Rewards’ category. > **[Contact Support](https://gemsofwar.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202997425-How-do-I-contact-support-or-report-a-bug-)** > > If you can’t find answers or a solution in our Help Center articles, you may need to contact our Support team. > Types of requests Support can help with > Account Issues - Forgotten password, account r... ---
**Author:** ![Onizakkii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/onizakkii/32/45682_2.png) [@Onizakkii](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Onizakkii)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 12:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/16 "2018-09-07T00:20:29Z")
Okay, thanks for the info, and sorry for the inconvenience. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ArkadeADD1CT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/arkadeadd1ct/32/46927_2.png) [@ArkadeADD1CT](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ArkadeADD1CT)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/17 "2018-09-07T15:30:26Z")
Nah, it’s fine. It gave me a vault key and got me past a tough fight. Really happy I got the vault key as it is the first one I got from a gnome in a long time. ---
**Author:** ![Cellophane\_Girl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cellophane_girl/32/45939_2.png) [@Cellophane\_Girl](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cellophane_Girl)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/18 "2018-09-09T19:56:16Z")
This has been happening a lot to me. I think Cedric Crinklesack is appearing because I’ve been using him recently (I’ve noticed in explore troops you’ve been using a lot tend to appear randomly). However I had a battle Thursday night that had a treasure gnomes, soul gnime, and Cedrick. All with no bags or rewards. This is all happening in explore. I KNOW people use gnomes in PVP to “trick” people. But I was getting double or triple gnomes with no bags in explore. When is restart my game I’d get regular gnomes again, until Cedrick showed up, after that I would find gnomes with no loot bags. I’ve begun restarting the game after I get a gnome with no loot bag in explore. Seems to help, but it’s really annoying. Screencap of 3 gnome battle in explore that was discussed. ![IMG_0325dd48-8594-47a0-943a-c6ced6cb7eec](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/5/358509dd61f360958374b8babf4290be3e80a22f.png) ---
**Author:** ![Cellophane\_Girl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cellophane_girl/32/45939_2.png) [@Cellophane\_Girl](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cellophane_Girl)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/19 "2018-09-09T20:01:58Z")
This also happened around the same time as the other. I accidentally blew up the treasure gnome in the first slot before I took a screenshot. But it was 2 treasure gnomes, and a soul gnome, no nahs, in explore. I’ve had it happen a bunch with one or two treasure gnomes at a time. I just didn’t think about screenshots until later. ![IMG_0f557513-a533-438c-a509-7ef6a21d0fe0](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/3/6307d8cf8c0680a590f247240a61ea1b89c3f02b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![jzg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jzg/32/53451_2.png) [@jzg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jzg)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374/20 "2018-09-09T20:03:05Z")
Here is one more, from explore in Zaejin ![Untitled](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/7/070b884fbd6d48d947bce6cd6cee80762d65e2f6.jpeg) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/several-gnomes-appering-in-the-same-battle-and-do-not-give-rewards/45374.md?page=2)