# Season of Ice Begins **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [July 22, 2024, 7:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713 "2024-07-22T07:00:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Theoden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/50afbb/32.png) [@Theoden](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Theoden)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/63 "2024-07-22T20:34:47Z")
I can upgrade Immortal Glaycia’s weapon with ingots like a regular mythic weapon. I thought they were supposed to be upgradeable only by levelling the immortal troop? ---
**Author:** ![Elfin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/258eb7/32.png) [@Elfin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Elfin)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/64 "2024-07-22T20:37:24Z")
Awesome breakdown, as always. Thank you. At least now people will know approximately what they _might_ get if they pay for the pass. 🤦‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![GODZILLA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/godzilla/32/102937_2.png) [@GODZILLA](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GODZILLA)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/65 "2024-07-22T20:38:26Z")
Season of dying big whales begins…and it happens faster than ever before after this grindy and greedy update. ![ap22285193572265-75b3f1348f51af82ee46e3791026891f4499d6e3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/4/44e0c003e556edef0b5bceb1ac71e766457480d4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![mgmt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mgmt/32/102258_2.png) [@mgmt](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mgmt)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/66 "2024-07-22T20:54:45Z")
So insulting that VP unlocks get revoked and have to be re-earned every season. Can’t spend our marks on books, can’t buy shiny keys, hell, can’t even POST IN ALLIANCE CHAT until we grind out their VP milestones from scratch. And even that goes away AGAIN after 11 weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Grundge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e99b99/32.png) [@Grundge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundge)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/67 "2024-07-22T21:03:00Z")
The icon to upgrade is there but it cannot be upgraded with ingots ---
**Author:** ![Kelana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kelana/32/88601_2.png) [@Kelana](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kelana)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/68 "2024-07-22T21:11:14Z")
> [@Darklord1](#): > > So if everything has reset that mean no Alliance chat? (Not that it bothers me) Oh, the people who pay boatloads of money get to talk. ---
**Author:** ![Sylwani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sylwani](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sylwani)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 9:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/69 "2024-07-22T21:22:53Z")
Why would you share this ---
**Author:** ![Theoden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/50afbb/32.png) [@Theoden](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Theoden)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/70 "2024-07-22T21:24:15Z")
> [@Grundge](#): > > The icon to upgrade is there but it cannot be upgraded with ingots Did you try it, or are you assuming? Worked when I tried it. ---
**Author:** ![Sylwani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sylwani](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sylwani)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/71 "2024-07-22T21:24:53Z")
Grayed out for me ---
**Author:** ![Sylwani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sylwani](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sylwani)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/72 "2024-07-22T21:26:13Z")
![Screenshot_20240722_172538](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/2/52db2fa9ac2f2f6a1f0d83767ae6479ba846c118.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Theoden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/50afbb/32.png) [@Theoden](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Theoden)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/73 "2024-07-22T21:29:53Z")
> [@Sylwani](#): > > Why would you share this Because it might cause a problem when it is upgraded the intended way after being upgraded the wrong way ---
**Author:** ![Theoden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/50afbb/32.png) [@Theoden](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Theoden)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 9:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/74 "2024-07-22T21:32:25Z")
On Xbox, there is no onscreen button to upgrade, you press left bumper and it works. ---
**Author:** ![Zuul-Emo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/67e7ee/32.png) [@Zuul-Emo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zuul-Emo)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 9:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/75 "2024-07-22T21:39:05Z")
> [@Seward101](#): > > 2500 gold marks for a mythic which can be crafted for 4k diamonds? Bold of you to assume they won’t massively overcharge when crafting, too. > [@FanDeHen](#): > > Hello,Kafka. we need to know when Kukulkan appears in Soulforge, still requires 2500 gold marks or 4000 Diamonds for production This is exactly what we need to know. They can’t really expect players to pay that much in the soulforge. > [@DarwinX](#): > > Kukulkan is more expensive than Stellarix. That doesn’t include the other dragons or weapons that you’d get unlocking Stellarix So, yeah, they probably do expect players to pay extra in the forge. For a mythic that isn’t really worth getting. Not sure if this is them being terrible at creating powerful mythics that would justify a high price, or them relying on FOMO to sell a trash mythic at above market rates. ---
**Author:** ![Zuul-Emo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/67e7ee/32.png) [@Zuul-Emo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zuul-Emo)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/76 "2024-07-22T21:40:44Z")
> [@canadademon](#): > > However, I question if we will be able to complete the Citadel Battles (as well as the Citadel Guardian Battles) without paying extra. > > The Monolith Battles might be able to be done Free, maybe. Yeah, I’ve been doing the numbers on some of the goals, too, and it looks like they expect players to be paying out to earn goals, not just the season pass rewards. Really not keen on this update and the more I look, the uglier it gets. ---
**Author:** ![Sblestar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sblestar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sblestar)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/77 "2024-07-22T21:40:58Z")
Ah–thanx… ---
**Author:** ![RootsSeed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@RootsSeed](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RootsSeed)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/78 "2024-07-23T00:29:58Z")
> **Summary** > > I’m f2p > > ![imagem_2024-07-22_212531561](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/6/66dfc8189795e5cdd8f36719654dbff637fb1f11.jpeg) > and got this: > ![imagem_2024-07-22_212637280](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/f/ffaa9349970c99a656d84ef21364f473dca58614.jpeg) > ![imagem_2024-07-22_212713707](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/f/2f6d3db685d279d77f4e50d381046aac6e31c3a5.jpeg) > after: > ![imagem_2024-07-22_212846739](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/a/3a54bd22cff5142da43dd6a822d482e68197d661.jpeg) > ![imagem_2024-07-22_212924929](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/c/fca161294146a5a73f74a6f434bb11422d5e2fc6.jpeg) > > ![imagem_2024-07-22_212943554](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/6/365f4a1a09bf15d54205088e68a02d84606b19aa.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Bramble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@Bramble](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Bramble)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 1:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/79 "2024-07-23T01:44:16Z")
Hello 🙂 Please **DO NOT ATTEMPT to upgrade your Immortal weapons in this manner** , as it **will potentially screw up the levelling of your Immortal Weapon.** Please also note that I’ve let the development team know about this issue and they are working on rectifying this issue. For further details, please refer to this article here: [Able to Upgrade Immortal Weapons using Mythical Ingots or Orbs](https://gemsofwar.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/10272318572047-Able-to-Upgrade-Immortal-Weapons-using-Mythical-Ingots-or-Orbs) ---
**Author:** ![sylverscale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@sylverscale](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sylverscale)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 2:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/80 "2024-07-23T02:38:39Z")
Holy crap - that’s all I can say. Unfortunately, I have other things to do and can’t play pvp the whole day. Nor would I want to if I’m honest. ---
**Author:** ![sylverscale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@sylverscale](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sylverscale)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 2:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/81 "2024-07-23T02:50:10Z")
I can’t get over the fact that we can’t even use the Alliance chat unless we earn an amount of VP that isn’t in reach of your standard player. So alliance chat will be an “elite” feature for those few who grind pvp like their lives depend on it. Make it make sense! Having your progress revoked is the biggest demotivation. Who are we? Sisyphus? You know that it was supposed to be a punishment and that we don’t play this game to be punished? I have 0 motivation to buy the pvp pass, and I have not bought the season pass either. I’m VIP 9 so it’s not like I have not bought things. But the greed and the grind are getting out of hand. ---
**Author:** ![Courtaud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/courtaud/32/20160_2.png) [@Courtaud](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Courtaud)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 7:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713/82 "2024-07-23T07:34:42Z")
That’s the purpose. We can’t have easy books or dragonites, it’s bad for the economy. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/season-of-ice-begins/84713.md?page=5)