# "RNG" at its best

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\
**Created:** [October 30, 2017, 6:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458 "2017-10-30T06:58:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458/21 "2017-10-31T19:54:27Z")

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This thread is becoming quite entertaining

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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458/22 "2017-10-31T19:55:55Z")

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> [@darkoak](#):
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> i have been playing this game for a month now a

Really? A whole entire month?

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**Author:** ![ralph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@ralph](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ralph)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458/23 "2017-11-01T21:38:17Z")

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Some nice math have been done here… So might I have a question - what does this math say about probability for 8/8 devour hits for Kraken AI player? How possible it is? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458/24 "2017-11-01T21:41:34Z")

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Same possibility for player. My kraken goes 8 in a row actually quite often

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**Author:** ![ralph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@ralph](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ralph)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458/25 "2017-11-01T21:42:38Z")

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Then you are one very lucky player 🙂 My congratulations 🙂

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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458/26 "2017-11-01T21:46:49Z")

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If you are having trouble with kraken eating up all your triops drop an impervious troop in last slot. Leet works very well as does plague

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**Author:** ![Amadan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amadan/32/7653_2.png) [@Amadan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Amadan)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458/28 "2017-11-01T23:22:32Z")

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The chance of a 40% event hitting on 8/8 attempts is 0.4^8 = 0.00065536 = ~0.066% = ~1:1525.

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**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 11:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458/29 "2017-11-01T23:58:56Z")

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It’s Salty with your daily reminder that the AI doesn’t cheat against the player. In fact, at lower levels, it cheats in favour of the player. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458/30 "2017-11-01T23:59:55Z")

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Salty plz have u any information on when the new two classes will come?😊

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**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 7:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458/31 "2017-11-02T07:22:22Z")

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> [@Anchovies](#):
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> That is over two hundred thousand times more people than the entire world population.

so there is a fair chance that if entire world population casts manacles 22 times, everyone will fail at least once 😂

thank you, now the world can unite! 🤣😉

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 7:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458/32 "2017-11-02T07:31:48Z")

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It’s not just a “fair chance,” it’s almost guaranteed that everyone will fail at least once. The odds are _very_ low that _anyone_ would succeed.

#math!

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**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 7:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458/33 "2017-11-02T07:38:56Z")

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i know im just taking into consideration that one in a million chance is bound to happen, #terrypratchett

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 8:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458/34 "2017-11-02T08:18:38Z")

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That’s different; that’s the [Law of Large Numbers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers) at play. The idea there is that, for a given improbable event (one in a million), there’s an ever-increasing chance of it happening to _someone_ over a large enough sample set, so while it seems like a shot in the dark to the one who manages to be lucky (or unlucky, depending on the event!), odds were high _in aggregate_ that the event should occur.

In this case, we’re talking about something so unlikely to occur in aggregate that you’d likely have to run hundreds of thousands of trials across all humans on Earth to get close to 50% odds of it ever happening at all.

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**Author:** ![ralph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@ralph](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ralph)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 9:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458/35 "2017-11-02T09:33:37Z")

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> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> It’s Salty with your daily reminder that the AI doesn’t cheat

If AI doesn’t cheat (I can agree on that - why would it?) maybe it is simply bugged, and doesn’t work as intented? 🙂 Would a bug be possible? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 9:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458/36 "2017-11-02T09:38:41Z")

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**Author:** ![Neves1277](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/neves1277/32/14957_2.png) [@Neves1277](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Neves1277)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 1:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458/37 "2017-11-02T13:40:56Z")

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I think the devs should just unnerf everything that’s been nerfed since the dawn of this game and let the meta descend into OP chaos. If you’re going to RNG , might as well invoke anarchy.

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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rng-at-its-best/32458/38 "2017-11-02T13:50:01Z")

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I agree… I mean i cant take this 90% win rate much longer  
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