# Reward "bad luck" **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [August 29, 2022, 10:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760 "2022-08-29T10:53:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 2:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/21 "2022-09-10T14:35:47Z")
1/38 Not sure if getting 2 battles + trap is more or less frustrating than ju finding the trap straight away. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/22 "2022-09-10T14:54:05Z")
It is a lot more frustrating as you came closer with finding two battles first. ---
**Author:** ![Draegor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/draegor/32/70763_2.png) [@Draegor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draegor)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/23 "2022-09-10T15:43:32Z")
Feels bad man. But you weren’t getting dragonite before the update, so this dungeon system is net positive. ---
**Author:** ![ats1080](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/74df32/32.png) [@ats1080](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ats1080)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 3:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/24 "2022-09-10T15:59:56Z")
I have not had a SINGLE perfect run yet, despite actually winning every single battle first try. I think you need to update this “perfect run” nonsense to be something other than an impossible game of chance. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/25 "2022-09-10T16:13:20Z")
> [@Draegor](#): > > Feels bad man. But you weren’t getting dragonite before the update, so this dungeon system is net positive. How many perfect runs have you gotten? ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/26 "2022-09-10T17:23:28Z")
> [@Draegor](#): > > Feels bad man. But you weren’t getting dragonite before the update, so this dungeon system is net positive. But at least some of us owned all the troops in the game. The update ruined that. ---
**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/27 "2022-09-10T22:11:56Z")
> [@awryan](#): > > But at least some of us owned all the troops in the game. The update ruined that. As if new troops aren’t being released every week? Granted, new troops with exclusive acquisition methods (Zuul’Goth/Xathenos, Hoard Mimic, Drenza) do not come along near so frequently… ---
**Author:** ![WishKiller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wishkiller/32/36914_2.png) [@WishKiller](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WishKiller)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 1:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/28 "2022-09-11T01:21:53Z")
Technically a “perfect” run should mean you’re undefeated… Regardless of the disadvantages you receive. ---
**Author:** ![Draegor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/draegor/32/70763_2.png) [@Draegor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draegor)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 1:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/29 "2022-09-11T01:58:00Z")
True, but that also means your on top of everything so this is something else to work towards. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 3:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/30 "2022-09-11T03:14:44Z")
> [@Draegor](#): > > this is something else to work towards. Work? It’s just luck and gems. It’s the gow version of a lottery scratch off ticket. The real work is trying to stay optimistic as the devs are trying their best to hit every iceberg they can. And then marvel in how their ship hasn’t sank yet. ---
**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 9:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/31 "2022-09-11T09:24:59Z")
> [@Draegor](#): > > this is something else to work towards If I could at least work towards it, that would be fine. At least for orbs, you’d work towards getting them from event rewards. It was still random, but you earn another go at the slot machine. This here is waiting towards it. There’s nothing I can do to speed it up. The only way to get it is to pay up, and I just can’t make myself do it, even though I have some gems to spare. 1/40 now In other news, in world event… ![Screenshot_20220910-115418](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/0/507a84ff3982384bd4d96a36e9c201508cf9a5b7.jpeg) There’s my problem, wasting my luck on useless stuff. I now have 10 orbs of power 🤷‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 7:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/32 "2022-09-13T07:43:37Z")
1/44 The urge to quit is getting stronger… ![Screenshot_20220913-003931](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/c/9c56667087cd9fe1eaaa3accb1483602a9468fe3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![xolid99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xolid99/32/66856_2.png) [@xolid99](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/xolid99)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 8:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/33 "2022-09-14T08:58:07Z")
1/41 Yep - not spending gems anymore ---
**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 8:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/34 "2022-09-15T08:15:11Z")
1/48 ![Screenshot_20220915-011257](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/4/e4ff6b7a28201357db71404484d2cfb7fa41f0de.jpeg) 🤦‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![13Z50P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/13z50p/32/27469_2.png) [@13Z50P](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/13Z50P)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 12:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/35 "2022-09-15T12:02:28Z")
Not a single “perfect” run yet. Bought every day just for one egg and trophy. Zero gems since. If it’s 10% chance, why is the PS Trophy count 0.4%? ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 3:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/36 "2022-09-15T15:24:10Z")
> [@13Z50P](#): > > If it’s 10% chance, why is the PS Trophy count 0.4%? Because you need to play the game in order to get the trophy, not just have it gathering dust in your library due to being curious about it a few years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/37 "2022-09-15T17:09:53Z")
Because “numbers do not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth”. For example, I recently kicked a player from my guild for being inactive. I kinda didn’t want to due to my guild’s low player count, but the inactive icon wasn’t lying, they hadn’t played in 3 weeks which probably meant they’re just not coming back. ---
**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 5:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/38 "2022-09-17T05:35:42Z")
2/50 ![Screenshot_20220916-083404](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/1/3/131e6ef343cf2b884fa3f75564c718fa69581b6b.jpeg) > [@13Z50P](#): > > If it’s 10% chance We don’t know that it’s 10% chance. Devs never said that, it’s just an assumption made by the community. It certainly doesn’t look like 10% to me at the moment, but that might change as we get more data. ---
**Author:** ![chinesefollower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/258eb7/32.png) [@chinesefollower](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/chinesefollower)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 9:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/39 "2022-09-17T21:12:16Z")
I also hate this new Dungeon system. It wasn’t until this morning did I get my second perfect run (while many members on our guild had 3+ perfect runs already). The system does not reward players who put a lot of hours in this game. You can have a causal player who only logs in daily to attempt the Dungeon and get a perfect run, while hardcore players get nothing in weeks (due to bad luck). This is unacceptable. There has to be a system to “guarantee” a perfect run after a certain days of failure (ie. 8 days or so). I had over 2 weeks without a perfect run until this morning. It’s very discouraging to log in everyday to attempt the Dungeon only to be disappointed with “ZERO” dragonite for weeks. Please implement a system to have a guarantee perfect run after a set number of failed attempts. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760/40 "2022-09-18T16:44:30Z")
2/54 @chinesefollower, devs are thinking about making changes, some post on it: > [@Dungeons , get real](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeons-get-real/76801/10): > > Hey all, Since the changes to Dungeons have been released, the CX team have been gathering your feedback to pass on to the team! For example more opportunities to earn Dragonite as a significant point, some suggestions for being awarded Dragonite for non-perfect runs, award scaling for how many doors you can open before a trap and something that could trigger a perfect run if you have had an extensive bad run of Dungeon attempts. I just wanted to jump into this thread (I’ll try to cross-share… > [@\[Not a Bug\] Need 500 Dragonite refunded please](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-need-500-dragonite-refunded-please/76858/57): > > Hey everyone! Thank you for the discussion and feedback that you’ve all provided on this. We can confirm that this isn’t a bug. When crafting a Gem Dragon egg, each Dragon has the same chance to be created but if you have already crafted one of them, this does not prevent you from being able to craft a second. This feedback has been passed onto the team and we do have plans for these Gem Dragons in the future! But this is working as intended currently. OminousGMan - Support Human … [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reward-bad-luck/76760.md?page=3)