# \[Reported\] Softlock on enemy transformation **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug Reports\ **Created:** [December 16, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655 "2024-12-16T19:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Smiling\_Spectre1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/smiling_spectre1/32/7204_2.png) [@Smiling\_Spectre1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smiling_Spectre1)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/1 "2024-12-16T19:03:30Z")
**Platform, device version and operating system:** Windows 10 x64 **Screenshot or image:** ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/7/0702bd570110bfa52430806818e58dc03aafa9b9.jpeg) **What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened:** Second day in row I have the same problem: it’s enemy turn, but enemy doesn’t move. Additionally, both times I had magic shield, and it pulses twice fast during that. Both cases have the same traits in common (aside of shield): - There is only one enemy troop. - My hero has Essense of Evil, and uses it on last enemy. - Enemy transformed just at the moment when it’s their turn. **How often does this happen? When did it begin happening?** I hit it first time yesterday. Looked quite a rare case - until I hit it today. **Steps to make it happen again** No idea what exactly is relevant in that case, but I believe, only one enemy and transforming curse may be the key parameters. Last place on battlefield may be important too. ---
**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 11:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/2 "2024-12-16T23:37:39Z")
> [@Smiling\_Spectre1](#): > > Additionally, both times I had magic shield, and it pulses twice fast during that. Are you playing on 2x game speed? The visuals for status effects (such as Barrier) animate relative to game speed any time the board is _not_ waiting on your input (aka. during your turn). So we can probably rule it out as a contributing factor to this issue. If this is specifically related to Transforming a foe, Transform can be tested in isolation via the weapon Dragon’s Eye. However, because you cast Essence of Evil and the opponent is _not_ specifically a Giant Toad then the suspicion falls on the foe having Lycanthropy (which is also easily tested in isolation – but I doubt that is enough for this issue). ---
**Author:** ![Smiling\_Spectre1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/smiling_spectre1/32/7204_2.png) [@Smiling\_Spectre1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smiling_Spectre1)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/3 "2024-12-17T20:41:45Z")
> [@Stratelier](#): > > Are you playing on 2x game speed? I am playing on maximum speed. Ok, it explains the animation. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 9:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/4 "2024-12-18T09:10:59Z")
> [@Smiling\_Spectre1](#): > > Enemy transformed just at the moment when it’s their turn. Do you happen to remember what the enemy was prior to transforming? Back when lycanthropy gems got introduced, there used to be an issue with the hero transforming. Maybe this somehow got patched in again. ---
**Author:** ![Smiling\_Spectre1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/smiling_spectre1/32/7204_2.png) [@Smiling\_Spectre1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smiling_Spectre1)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/5 "2024-12-18T11:42:38Z")
I don’t remember, unfortunately. I am almost sure it wasn’t a hero, but theoretically speaking, it could be. In my instakill teams I always kill hero as soon as possible, but here it’s a different team… Sorry. I’ll keep eye on it. ---
**Author:** ![Kafka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kafka/32/33529_2.png) [@Kafka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kafka)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 11:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/6 "2024-12-18T23:54:35Z")
Did this happen pretty shortly befor eyou made the post? If you could give me a rough timeframe from the time you created the thread I can go get a little more info from your battle logs. ---
**Author:** ![Smiling\_Spectre1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/smiling_spectre1/32/7204_2.png) [@Smiling\_Spectre1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smiling_Spectre1)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/7 "2024-12-21T21:50:22Z")
If post have screenshot, then I made it soon after the issue (I never save screenshots, so it was in buffer). So date of post creation is the time of the error, maybe several minutes more. ---
**Author:** ![Smiling\_Spectre1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/smiling_spectre1/32/7204_2.png) [@Smiling\_Spectre1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smiling_Spectre1)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/8 "2024-12-23T19:05:39Z")
Just hit it again. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/b/0b223368c978a3025ceea1ec8cd1361f2f1b87d2.jpeg) Full team this time, Tina-9000 affected by my Essense of Evil, transformed to Kharybdis on its turn and softlocked the game. So it has something with the last slot. ---
**Author:** ![STUB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stub/32/74879_2.png) [@STUB](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/STUB)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/9 "2025-01-01T17:40:29Z")
![Screenshot_20250101-171728](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/b/cb9d95ad1000a6b3df2c532c01eb046c706363cf.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20250101-082105](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/6/e619aca62c13139ce8c7455499c1f328b78e8868.jpeg) This seems to be happening a lot the last 3 weeks a soft lock on essence of evil when a summon occurs at the same time. But it doesnt happen everytime but think it needs investigating. ---
**Author:** ![STUB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stub/32/74879_2.png) [@STUB](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/STUB)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 3:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/10 "2025-01-02T03:22:39Z")
![Screenshot_20250102-030203](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/0/8059b1cd3a9c3e9c03f37558809d0951ef2658dc.jpeg) Soft lock on essence of evil + summon… 4th time in and hour… ---
**Author:** ![STUB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stub/32/74879_2.png) [@STUB](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/STUB)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 12:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/11 "2025-01-10T12:05:28Z")
Still locking when last opponent is transformed… ![Screenshot_20250110-112703](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/e/3ec433206cd6b9409bfab567f01228a11bd613bc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![WhoDat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whodat/32/63679_2.png) [@WhoDat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WhoDat)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 4:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/12 "2025-01-11T04:55:35Z")
![IMG_7499](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/5/857f7c6058b952cbbf2e6a4722213bfbe800ec08.jpeg) PVP battle. Can’t do anything. Had to retreat and get the L. When this issue will be resolved?! ---
**Author:** ![WhoDat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whodat/32/63679_2.png) [@WhoDat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WhoDat)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 12:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/13 "2025-01-11T12:46:04Z")
![IMG_7506](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/6/b63fd1f62652d2df49c27ed5389060bf65d0ebcc.jpeg) ![IMG_7507](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/1/4/14b17467bf8adb4fa7984ff57506b487a67295be.jpeg) Again Same thing happened. Locked ---
**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 11:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/14 "2025-01-11T23:33:40Z")
> [@WhoDat](#): > > When this issue will be resolved?! Serious answer: you don’t want to know. This issue occurs solely on the clientside (everything in battle is handled by the game client) meaning that, assuming it can be properly sourced and identified, the fix needs to be incorporated into the next client update. (Or at best, a “hotfix” client update.) It IS NOT fixable by quickly changing a few settings on the server and pushing out updated content/asset files. (Which kind of means we don’t need mountains of screenshots showcasing the softlock _after the fact…_) I’m up for attempting to snag some footage – I play on Switch where _(as a system default)_ it is always recording the last 30 seconds, but my first few attempts so far were unproductive. Lycanthropy alone isn’t a trigger (or this might have been reported far sooner), so I’m wondering if it’s a combination of Lycanthropy and Terror – there’s a calculated ~1.5% chance that they both trigger simultaneously (which could explain the rarity of incidents, if it’s actually relevant). New question: About how many times would you guess you cast EoE during a battle? Have you discovered any softlocks occurring after only _one_ cast? ---
**Author:** ![STUB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stub/32/74879_2.png) [@STUB](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/STUB)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 6:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/16 "2025-01-12T06:30:08Z")
Not sure how accurate your calculation is XD but looks pretty likely its transform and terror as its always occurs on last opponent there is another error when opponent flees and you summon in the final round so most likely its in the coding for terror… ---
**Author:** ![Smiling\_Spectre1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/smiling_spectre1/32/7204_2.png) [@Smiling\_Spectre1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smiling_Spectre1)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/17 "2025-01-12T17:02:42Z")
In my case: - I almost always use Essense of Evil from second to top to down, as much as I have opportunity. - The problem arises _only_ on troop transformation. In 95% of cases it’s also a last troop. One time it was the third troop (only two troops remained at those time, and fourth was already affected by Essense of Evil too). But I seen the problem many times when there were troops above affected fourth troop too. Taking into account the weird behavior of Horror, it may be the combination “Horror+Transform” trigger indeed. ---
**Author:** ![STUB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stub/32/74879_2.png) [@STUB](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/STUB)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 11:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/18 "2025-01-15T11:19:57Z")
![Screenshot_20250115-111215](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/2/02ce552a527a74b803c9cc855af51fb72823a014.jpeg) Four and a half minute game i clawed back only to be defeated by … ![Screenshot_20250115-111208](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/c/2c8ba0bf0e025a7f25b8bc9e6c78710435fd20df.jpeg) You guessed it EoE softlock … kudos in creating albeit by srendipity one of my favourite reason to throw my tablet at the floor. ---
**Author:** ![STUB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stub/32/74879_2.png) [@STUB](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/STUB)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 11:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/19 "2025-01-22T11:27:43Z")
![Screenshot_20250122-082924](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/8/5825943b76a045945db44bcf97013b2d0c49ffc3.jpeg) Still unresolved ---
**Author:** ![xolid99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xolid99/32/66856_2.png) [@xolid99](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/xolid99)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/20 "2025-01-22T17:45:28Z")
> [@Stratelier](#): > > I’m up for attempting to snag some footage – I play on Switch where _(as a system default)_ it is always recording the last 30 seconds, but my first few attempts so far were unproductive. Lycanthropy alone isn’t a trigger (or this might have been reported far sooner), so I’m wondering if it’s a combination of Lycanthropy and Terror – there’s a calculated ~1.5% chance that they both trigger simultaneously (which could explain the rarity of incidents, if it’s actually relevant). I already supplied video of this issue in another thread. It’s extremely easy to replicate every single battle if you keep the last troop alive. Granted the missing gems I didn’t video but the unable to move bit I did. > [@\[Reported\] Summon bug again](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-summon-bug-again/86662/7): > > Hi Kafka Thanks for the reply. It was just before, as I left the battle on the retreat tab for about 23 minutes and created the screenshot during that time and posted. I will post others if I get them again. It’s fairly rare though. Terror seemed to be an issue pre patch but seems better. The team I used has curse/terror and lycantrophy without EoE. Devastating team that barely loses, but ofc I can simulate the bug each time IF the final troop turns with Lycantrophy. Eoe does the same with less troops in team but Wand of Stars casts help vs being stunned and being turned with Lycantrophy if not impervious. I’m sure it’s Terror and Lycantrophy, which both this team and EoE has. We’ll just have to wait til next patch for a fix I guess. I had so much fun with that team and scaling magic. stopped using Hatir and Skroll and Midwinter Lycan for now, and EoE is also on leave of absence… ---
**Author:** ![Jeto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeto/32/101682_2.png) [@Jeto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jeto)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 10:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655/21 "2025-01-22T22:08:58Z")
At the moment, this is expected to be fixed in 8.4 as it requires a client update. But that is the latest information I have at the moment. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-softlock-on-enemy-transformation/86655.md?page=2)