# \[Reported\] Pvp league promotion **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug Reports\ **Created:** [January 1, 2024, 7:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724 "2024-01-01T07:53:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![JHM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71c47a/32.png) [@JHM](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JHM)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 4:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/61 "2024-03-05T04:01:21Z")
> [@jjaanf](#): > > Could it be that… the game considers your best ranking in the week ? I wondered that. Tested it the other week and it didn’t work (deliberately got up to rank 2, then let myself drop to rank 5 or 6. Think it said I finished rank 4 or something), so don’t think it works that way. ---
**Author:** ![Kezef](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Kezef](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kezef)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/62 "2024-03-05T14:08:16Z")
> [@jjaanf](#): > > Could it be that… the game considers your best ranking in the week ? Haven’t the developers told us that the game generates a unique bracket for every individual player? Which would mean that the “average” player would be part of ~30 brackets? Could it be that… the game grants you rewards based on your best individual bracket ranking, whether it’s “your” bracket or somebody else’s? ---
**Author:** ![Kafka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kafka/32/33529_2.png) [@Kafka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kafka)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 2:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/63 "2024-03-06T02:25:46Z")
This is fixed in 7.4, yell out if you still have issues on Monday weekly reset. This is a long post so forgive me if we’ve already shared this information: Basically the issue was caused because the league rank wasn’t displaying accurately. The fix makes it so that you have to play a battle in order to show up on the league board and from there it will then display your actual rank. So what you see and the expected demotion/promotions will match now. ---
**Author:** ![JHM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71c47a/32.png) [@JHM](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JHM)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 3:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/64 "2024-03-06T03:13:56Z")
Thanks for the info Kafka. Does this mean we’re in only one bubble now? Since we only get the rewards we see? ---
**Author:** ![Kafka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kafka/32/33529_2.png) [@Kafka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kafka)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 3:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/65 "2024-03-06T03:32:57Z")
The league bubbles are still asynchronous, it just displays your place accurately in your own bubble now. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 11:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/66 "2024-03-06T11:59:25Z")
I think I’m still confused on this one. _Were_ the ranks in our own bubbles not showing accurately? As far as I can remember, no one was out-of-order in terms of Victory Points – everyone that we could see in our own bubbles had the correct rank according to their VP. ![IMG_20240306_225733](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/6/766ff2ba3fb6ef2f17f10cc83372d6a6f332e46e.jpeg) I guess we’ll see what happens come reset 🤔 😵‍💫 ---
**Author:** ![Kafka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kafka/32/33529_2.png) [@Kafka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kafka)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 12:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/67 "2024-03-07T00:14:55Z")
That’s right, players in your own bubble were not displayed correctly, which made it look like you should have been promoted/demoted/stayed put when the actual results were different from what you could see. Relegation and Rewards are based on actual results, not on the display. With the fix the display will now show accurately. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/68 "2024-03-07T01:50:03Z")
Ah okay, ty! So I think I’m understanding that the results of other players as shown in our bubbles were not reflective of their actual results/scores (i.e. Victory Points), for whatever reason. They were still in the correct order based on the VP scores that _were_ showing, but those VP scores weren’t true or accurate. The fix is making other players’ true VP scores show correctly within our bubble. We should be promoted/relegated/rewarded accurately based on what we see, moving forwards. Maybe a follow-up question would be, how are we matched with players within our League each week? Is it randomly selected from all qualifying players? ---
**Author:** ![blackberry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/blackberry/32/96317_2.png) [@blackberry](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/blackberry)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/69 "2024-03-08T17:06:12Z")
I’m curious if I’m understanding what’s going on correctly. If we really are in several ‘secret’ brackets, each counting towards our results at the end of the week … doesn’t that mean that the chances that the other people we see in our visible bracket see us back are pretty small? In other words, if I see that I’m in first in my visible bracket, just ahead of GemSmasherXYZ by a few points… then they probably don’t actually see that I am, do they? I know I got first-in-bracket rewards every week so far since brackets, even when I wasn’t first in my visible bracket. Is this going to change with 7.4? Did they ‘fix’ this? Not that I mind getting an unexpected 120 gold marks in the mail Monday morning! Just curious ---
**Author:** ![covertmuffin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5daacb/32.png) [@covertmuffin123](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/covertmuffin123)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/70 "2024-03-08T17:46:13Z")
> [@blackberry](#): > > doesn’t that mean that the chances that the other people we see in our visible bracket see us back are pretty small? Yep, that was always the explicit design. It makes it a little less competitive (read: easier) but more confusing. ---
**Author:** ![blackberry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/blackberry/32/96317_2.png) [@blackberry](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/blackberry)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 6:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/71 "2024-03-08T18:23:18Z")
Do we have a sense of an ‘average’ first prize score to aim for? Like, if I have a monster in my visible bracket with over 100k, I’m not going to grind and grind to beat them. But I might aim for 40 or 50k whatever my visible rank is to try to have a good chance of getting first in \*some bracket ---
**Author:** ![RootsSeed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@RootsSeed](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RootsSeed)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/72 "2024-03-08T19:25:39Z")
Some kind of forecast to tell us our placement would be nice. ---
**Author:** ![Hayabusa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hayabusa/32/85130_2.png) [@Hayabusa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hayabusa)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 10:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/73 "2024-03-08T22:42:05Z")
100k? That might qualify for 2nd or 3rd every few weeks. But not 1st in Diamond League. 😂🥹 ---
**Author:** ![JamesDurning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@JamesDurning](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JamesDurning)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/74 "2024-03-08T23:05:06Z")
I lucked out with 35k being a hidden 2nd, but I am just under 1500. It’s going to at least double with Blood Frenzy. Not sure if these brackets are taking levels into account. Is anyone collecting data on this? ---
**Author:** ![Voq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/voq/32/54089_2.png) [@Voq](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Voq)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 5:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/75 "2024-03-09T17:23:09Z")
Am I misunderstanding how the system is meant to work originally and how it’s supposed to work now after the fix? I just want to confirm for my own understanding. I thought your rewards are _only_ based on the bubble you see in game. The bug was that game didn’t correctly display your actual ranking within your bubble. You being able to get rewarded by your best ranking in other people’s bubbles was only speculation about what the bug was before Kafka clarified. ---
**Author:** ![noob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/noob/32/54823_2.png) [@noob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/noob)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 8:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/76 "2024-03-11T08:22:23Z")
Not fully fixed. I was ranked 27th in diamond league last week. Still in diamond this week. ---
**Author:** ![CLARE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/clare/32/68377_2.png) [@CLARE](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CLARE)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 9:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/77 "2024-03-11T09:03:11Z")
Was in relegation zone for sure ![Screenshot_20240311~1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/5/056a53d84f5de9e99b91292ee49cec4d62ce87b9.jpeg) But still in diamond ![Screenshot_20240311~2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/1/e1ba76c2fe728c5b51ad102c9576f3e634ff73b8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Voq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/voq/32/54089_2.png) [@Voq](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Voq)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 11:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/78 "2024-03-11T11:19:38Z")
Yep, either not fixed or I don’t understand how this works. 🤔 I was 10th in my bubble or something, and got rewarded for 3rd. No complaints about the unexpected reward but if I had known I was actually close to the top, I’d have played differently. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 12:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/79 "2024-03-11T12:08:24Z")
> [@Voq](#): > > I thought your rewards are _only_ based on the bubble you see in game. > The bug was that game didn’t correctly display your actual ranking within your bubble. > > You being able to get rewarded by your best ranking in other people’s bubbles was only speculation about what the bug was before Kafka clarified. That’s what I understand, now, hoping it’s correct/waiting for confirmation. I believe we should display correctly in our bubbles starting from _this week_ onwards, so last week we were still displaying incorrectly and received rewards that didn’t quite match what we saw. ---
**Author:** ![Togepi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Togepi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Togepi)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724/80 "2024-03-19T14:57:44Z")
2 weeks since the supposed fix, and 2 weeks in a row that I should have been relegated from my Diamond league. Once again an abject attempt to fix content that was in no way tested properly before release. Congratulations on ruining yet another game mode. The 1 match I played to validate my league position is all I can stomach of this bug filled mess these days. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-pvp-league-promotion/82724.md?page=5)