# \[Reported\] Journey Event not calculating miles correctly

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649>\
**Category:** Bug Reports\
**Created:** [November 15, 2021, 4:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649 "2021-11-15T16:24:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CLARE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/clare/32/68377_2.png) [@CLARE](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CLARE)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 3:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/22 "2021-11-16T03:38:32Z")

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Thanks for your calculations. I felt there was something wrong with this event. Daily bonus battles won’t help much, so I’ll skip this achievement 🤣

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**Author:** ![Vold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e56c9b/32.png) [@Vold](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vold)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 4:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/23 "2021-11-16T04:03:59Z")

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If you’re trying to get the 20K miles, this event is literally a gem sink and a cash grab to get the player base to spend money in the store on gems.

This should not have been a 1 week event, but instead been a 2-3 week event minimum. Or at least have the miles increase with each battle instead of the same numbers. The lowest number of battles I saw on the leaderboard that was over 20K was 167. With most going over 200 battles.

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**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 5:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/24 "2021-11-16T05:48:39Z")

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> [@Vold](#):
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> If you’re trying to get the 20K miles, this event is literally a gem sink and a cash grab to get the player base to spend money in the store on gems.
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> This should not have been a 1 week event, but instead been a 2-3 week event minimum

Where does it say one has to get 20k miles in a single event for the achievement?  
If somebody, for whatever reason, wants to do it right away - by all means, let them spend their gems to their heart’s content.

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**Author:** ![Senedai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@Senedai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Senedai)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 10:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/25 "2021-11-16T10:21:13Z")

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That’s a lot of BS! A “turn” can NOT be the same as an action because if that was the case, then the status effects that do damage per turn (burn, bleed, etc.) whould be enough to wipe out the entire enemy team when playing with an infinite looping team.

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**Author:** ![Senedai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@Senedai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Senedai)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 10:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/26 "2021-11-16T10:23:35Z")

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See my comment above on what “turns” mean when applied to status effects that do damage per turn.

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**Author:** ![ALP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e99b99/32.png) [@ALP](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ALP)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 10:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/27 "2021-11-16T10:24:39Z")

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@Kafka @Jeto

After LVL140, not a single fight without a “10+ Turn penalty”.  
Last one (LVL192) it hit the max (-10x3=-30 miles)

Troops like “Mithrilion (%50 spell reduction” “Soul Dragon (%50 Emp. Baby Dragon)” it will be always max turn penalty after LVL200.

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**Author:** ![Nrthrnlad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9fc29f/32.png) [@Nrthrnlad](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nrthrnlad)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 12:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/28 "2021-11-16T12:56:26Z")

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Instead of worrying about the formula, can we instead acknowledge how dumb it is to integrate this into a guild event? Functionally as battles get harder, point results will get lower, deflating participation.

All to make an achievement hard enough to generate gem spend? This is one more instance where they see $$$ and have no care for quality of experience.

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**Author:** ![Nrthrnlad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9fc29f/32.png) [@Nrthrnlad](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nrthrnlad)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 1:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/30 "2021-11-16T13:00:31Z")

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> [@Dust\_Angel](#):
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> Where does it say one has to get 20k miles in a single event for the achievement?  
> If somebody, for whatever reason, wants to do it right away - by all means, let them spend their gems to their heart’s content.

The achievement uses the same language as the other “in one event” achievements.

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**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/31 "2021-11-16T15:56:55Z")

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Turn definition, as per Journey event article in game guides section, is clearly incorrect:

> A “turn” is all action completed in your move and then your enemies move, before you take your move  
> again.

or, maybe, the code responsible for calculating score is totally screwed up…and I can’t decide which would be worse.

This is what I got for my today’s battles (counting turns exactly as described above).  
**EDIT: 3x Pathfinder multiplier.**  
 ![Capture](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/2/028a1788f4150fb48e548c39a6e707683946d040.jpeg)

The team I used (with the intention to let enemy touch the board as little as possible) was  
 ![1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/1/8/181ac16e4c4d925374faa07841e8f1fef9a9c7b8.jpeg)

And, no, I’m not going to set up recording software to capture my battles, playback and count every action taken.

As for this,

> [@Nrthrnlad](#):
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> The achievement uses the same language as the other “in one event” achievements.

Let’s wait and see. If 20K in single event turns out to be the case, I’d find the fuss justified.

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**Author:** ![oneone78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/54ee81/32.png) [@oneone78](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/oneone78)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/32 "2021-11-16T20:04:40Z")

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i’ve for sure lost more than 10 points on a fight. it’s almost like the pathfinder troop is also multiplying the miles lost.

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**Author:** ![Qoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Qoob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Qoob)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 8:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/33 "2021-11-16T20:18:19Z")

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> [@oneone78](#):
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> it’s almost like the pathfinder troop is also multiplying the miles lost.

Yes, this is how it works. The deduction applies before the multiplier.

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**Author:** ![Vold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e56c9b/32.png) [@Vold](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vold)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/34 "2021-11-16T23:33:05Z")

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But where does it say that it doesn’t?

Based on the wording it seems like it would be a single event. As it says “a” Journey event. It is singular here in the description. But other event related achievements do use the word single in the description, where as this doesn’t. So you could be correct that this doesn’t have to be done in 1 event.

But I would think that if this is cumulative across multiple Journey events then the description would say so, or at least be plural. With “across all Journey events” or “in Journey events”.

If it’s plural than it would be seen as a cumulative achievement similar to Renown. And I am fine with that, it will take a few months (to a year) based on if we are getting new kingdoms every 5 weeks.

But based on the vague description and no clarification from the Devs, this is impossible to achieve in 1 week without spending at least 3000-5000 gems or more (depending on how lucky you are with ravens).

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**Author:** ![Kafka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kafka/32/33529_2.png) [@Kafka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kafka)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 4:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/35 "2021-11-17T04:53:05Z")

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Hi folks,

We’ve been looking into this and found that unfortunately, extra turns have been counting as part of the total turns taken when calculating the Journey Miles.

So in one of the examples I shared with the team:

I had Hawthorn ascended to Mythic with the Pathfinder Trait unlocked for the x3 miles bonus  
The battle gives 30 Miles as a base  
I took 16 turns in my battle  
I earnt 2 extra turns by making 4 Gem matches

So the expected result for this example is:  
(30 - 6) \* 3 = 72 Miles

My actual earnt Miles was 66.  
(30 - 6 - 2) \* 3 = 66 Miles

This wasn’t exactly what we intended, however, as it’s affecting everyone equally, we will look into this after the current Journey event has ended. This way everyone keeps the same level playing field.

Because the Journey Event article is linked to from inside the game, I have changed the description of how the event is currently working in the article so everyone can get the correct information on how this Journey Event is working.

> **[Journey Events](https://gemsofwar.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4407586251535)**
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> Journey to a new Kingdom, battling to collect Miles along the way.
> During Journey Event week, create a team that is based around the chosen element and troop type for the week. 
> On the Journey Even...

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**Author:** ![AnDre\_pl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/aca169/32.png) [@AnDre\_pl](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AnDre_pl)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 8:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/36 "2021-11-17T08:10:04Z")

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> [@Kafka](#):
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> This way everyone keeps the same level playing field.

I get that changing it now would be unfair, but what about event rewards? Due to this bug they are much harder to get. Maybe some threshold correction?

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**Author:** ![ALP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e99b99/32.png) [@ALP](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ALP)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 8:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/37 "2021-11-17T08:54:21Z")

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> [@Kafka](#):
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> This way everyone keeps the same level playing field

Thanks for the info.

**We are not competing each other** , so if some of my guildmates gets more miles “unfairly” it wouldn’t be a problem for me.

I lost 201 miles so far and probably 500 miles at the end of event.

If it’s hard to change calculation system,  
just **send fair enough miles to everyone** (_500 miles_)  
or  
**Lower the stage 12 points** (_40.000-15.000=25.000_)

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**Author:** ![sylverscale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@sylverscale](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sylverscale)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 10:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/38 "2021-11-17T10:02:09Z")

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That’s all great. Just please lower the costs/miles needed for the rewards.

You’ve done that before with another event, quite some time ago, so I’m certain it’s possible.

And what about the achievement? I personally don’t care but that will be harder to reach as well, no?

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**Author:** ![Tatz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tatz/32/86556_2.png) [@Tatz](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tatz)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/39 "2021-11-17T20:13:21Z")

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> [@Kafka](#):
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> This wasn’t exactly what we intended, however, as it’s affecting everyone equally, we will look into this after the current Journey event has ended. This way everyone keeps the same level playing field.

How is this actually equal?  
The difference of 40-50 battles are 2+ Tier 7’s, or 1000 gems which you sell for an advertised value of maybe $175.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/6/263533c09075e53ac6aa0952d78594dfac148388.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![kamosloki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/cdc98d/32.png) [@kamosloki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kamosloki)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/40 "2021-11-17T21:12:52Z")

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They mean affecting people equally in terms of the Leaderboard. Of course, only maybe 10 people care about the (generally meagre) Leaderboard scores, the rest of us just want our guilds to be able to finish the event

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**Author:** ![Pau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/pau/32/68074_2.png) [@Pau](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pau)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/41 "2021-11-17T21:41:39Z")

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and compensation for all lost points? because with that turn count it has become an impossible event to complete for almost all guilds.

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**Author:** ![kamosloki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/cdc98d/32.png) [@kamosloki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kamosloki)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 9:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-journey-event-not-calculating-miles-correctly/72649/42 "2021-11-17T21:52:39Z")

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It would be better and I think easier to just lower the miles required for the last couple of stages a bit - maybe drop them by a third for example

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