# \[Reported\] Headstart ToD

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-headstart-tod/80815>\
**Category:** Bug Reports\
**Created:** [August 5, 2023, 12:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-headstart-tod/80815 "2023-08-05T12:44:58Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 2:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-headstart-tod/80815/34 "2023-08-08T02:32:12Z")

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> [@Kafka](#):
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> Regarding the Boons, Luck Scrolls, Fireball and Heroism Scrolls - I have passed the feedback about missing these from previous floors onto the team for consideration. In this case we’re focusing more on the Luck, Fireball and Heroism Scrolls as some things will be missed due to purchasing the Headstart, similar to how you miss out on rewards and the easier battles in the other events if you purchase a Headstart.

If you are skipped to the _end_ of floor 8, as was done now, you missed exactly 1 Luck scroll due to how Luck scroll distribution works. Those that bought the offer need 18 dooms as their starting score, not 16. Also, nobody would have encountered a Heroism scroll by this point because they are clamped to 12 floor pools starting at floor 13. Edit: Fireball scrolls are 1 per 6 floor starting at floor 7, so clearing floor 8 from the deal would have had a 1/3 chance to miss a fireball scroll.(as noted before, fireball scrolls matter very little overall though by comparison) Without you having this knowledge yourself, I urge you to check with the team that this has been how it worked since patch 4.3. It will be nearly impossible for me to “prove” to you that these are the exact thresholds despite having charted this out over and over and over no matter how much evidence I provide, as the only official source links I could find were here, which don’t exactly specific _how_ they are clamped:

> [@Doom Event: Remove scroll randomness to make the event fair for every guild participating](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doom-event-remove-scroll-randomness-to-make-the-event-fair-for-every-guild-participating/49644/50):
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> This is something we’re already addressing in the 4.3 update. Herosim and Fireball scrolls will follow a similar drop pattern to Luck scrolls, in that there will be one within a given amount of floors after you’ve passed a certain point.

Although the patch notes only mention Fireball and Heroism, Luck scrolls are definitely clamped. We’ve had dozens of tower events since this point and they always follow the “1 every 4 floor set, starting at floor 5” pattern.

> [@4.3 Update (Patch Notes)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-3-update-patch-notes/53514/1):
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> Tower of Doom will now give out Fireball + Heroism scrolls consistently across all guilds

Surely there has to be someone around that knows the ins and outs of how Tower of Doom works and can design an offer that, bare minimum, does not shortchange on the event score? Boons and scouting have nebulous value, clamped luck scrolls don’t.

On a related note, if you are going to keep the headstart offer as is I’d recommend just having it clear past stage 8 _on purpose_ and giving 18 dooms, as I’m pretty sure the offer can’t calculate whether or not the luck scroll will be on floor 8 that far ahead of time and you run into murky waters if you clear _to stage 8_ where you simply had a _high chance_ of the luck scroll being passed over (as the scroll for 5-8 could still be on stage 8).

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