# \[Reported\] Headstart ToD

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-headstart-tod/80815>\
**Category:** Bug Reports\
**Created:** [August 5, 2023, 12:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-headstart-tod/80815 "2023-08-05T12:44:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
**Page:** 3

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**Author:** ![RootsSeed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@RootsSeed](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RootsSeed)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 9:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-headstart-tod/80815/42 "2023-08-08T09:20:59Z")

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Something tells me they will change it back to random so they won’t have to give luck boons to anyone in the headstart, but headstart will still feel like a deal that could make you have less rather than more.

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 10:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-headstart-tod/80815/43 "2023-08-08T10:48:37Z")

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> [@Kafka](#):
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> We mayyyy need to check the game data and code for this as it’s not intended to work this way.  
> Some things have a higher chance of appearing than others, so either your sample size was too small or something has been introduced to the code that has affected the rules around these drops.

Or you could just ask someone who was part of the Tower of Doom design team, unless the all jumped ship. Like @Mithran already pointed out, the “best” scrolls (Luck, Fireball and Heroism) were originally entirely random. This was changed on community request as part of Update 4.3, to make Tower of Doom fair for all guilds. Those scrolls now show up exactly once within a fixed range of levels (e.g. one Luck scroll every 4 level range, starting at level 5), the room within that level range is still random.

> [@Kafka](#):
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> We are currently working on sending you your 3 Forge Scrolls that you didn’t receive - we are trying to get this to you before the weekend! (I’m being conservative, hopefully it will be much before the weekend)

The Headstart Offer contains 5 **EXTRA** Forge Scrolls one wouldn’t normally receive, as buyer incentive. You should be sending out 8 scrolls, not 3. Please don’t claim that the Forge Scrolls from boss room rewards were taken into account, because it’s very apparent that **NONE** of the room rewards were taken into account.

> [@Kafka](#):
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> Regarding the Boons, Luck Scrolls, Fireball and Heroism Scrolls - I have passed the feedback about missing these from previous floors onto the team for consideration. In this case we’re focusing more on the Luck, Fireball and Heroism Scrolls as some things will be missed due to purchasing the Headstart, similar to how you miss out on rewards and the easier battles in the other events if you purchase a Headstart.

Sorry for sounding annoyed, but this lacks even basic understanding of how Tower of Doom works. The Headstart Offer for other events skips the low scoring phase, e.g. having to beat Invasion battles that contain less than 4 towers. Missing out on those is a benefit, you rather want to spend your sigils on high scoring battles. Contrary to that, Tower of Doom isn’t just about scoring, it actually has its rewards integrated into the fights, most prominently on the first 25 levels. Skipping any of those fights is like shooting yourself into your own foot, the only levels players may want to skip is the low reward (and same scoring) ones at the end. And that doesn’t even take guild scouting into account.

There’s a way so save the Headstart Offer. Whoever buys it still starts at tower level 1 and instead gets 8 Heroism scrolls (to auto-complete a boss fight, collecting the rewards) and a bunch of Fireball scrolls (to auto-complete a non-boss fight, collecting the rewards). That way headstarters can still scout and contribute to the guild, without missing out on anything.

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**Author:** ![Elfin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/258eb7/32.png) [@Elfin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Elfin)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 7:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-headstart-tod/80815/44 "2023-08-08T19:40:51Z")

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@Kafka love the idea for changing ToD headstart rewards as stated in the last paragraph above. I do some scouting for my guild and likely would buy that offer. I did not buy this week’s because I usually scout. Also, sadly, it looked like the rewards offered weren’t as good as just playing the levels, which turned out to be the case. Please share this feedback and thanks for taking the time to respond on this issue.

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 6:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-headstart-tod/80815/45 "2023-08-10T06:42:30Z")

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They sent over:

8 Stone Forge Scrolls

2 Heroism Scrolls  
1 Fireball Scroll  
1 Luck Scroll

2 Power Scrolls  
3 Magic Scroll  
4 Attack Scrolls  
6 Armor Scrolls  
6 Life Scrolls

Seems reasonable. Luck covered, 1 Heroism for the missing doom score, extra Fireball (for me, maybe not others), extra Heroism, extra Forge scrolls, other boons etc.

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**Author:** ![Lucien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lucien/32/75325_2.png) [@Lucien](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lucien)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 8:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-headstart-tod/80815/46 "2023-08-10T08:59:24Z")

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thank you for the fix @Kafka

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