# \[reported\] Guild war defense guardian kicks in too soon

**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-guild-war-defense-guardian-kicks-in-too-soon/89511
**Category:** Bug Reports
**Created:** [March 28, 2026, 7:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-guild-war-defense-guardian-kicks-in-too-soon/89511 "2026-03-28T07:26:12Z")
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### Author: ![Risa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f6c823/32.png) [@Risa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Risa)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2026, 7:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-guild-war-defense-guardian-kicks-in-too-soon/89511/1 "2026-03-28T07:26:12Z")

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**Platform, device version and operating system:**  
PC  
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**What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened:**  
In my 4th battle of last day’s guild war, the defender’s guardian sentinel kicked in way too sooner than I expected. It was supposed to kick in at turn 15, but in that battle it kicked in at turn 5 or 6. I didn’t count exactly, but at end of war I got +6 bonus from speed of battle, so it was turn 5 or 6.

**How often does this happen? When did it begin happening?**  
I have vaguely noticed this bug in previous guild wars. But no concrete evidence until this time.

**Steps to make it happen again**  
Don’t know. But I guess it may have some relation with extra turns.

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### Author: ![DDPGreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@DDPGreen](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DDPGreen)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2026, 8:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-guild-war-defense-guardian-kicks-in-too-soon/89511/2 "2026-03-28T20:35:17Z")

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In my experience, the number of turns for the guardian to appear is cumulative across all 5 daily battles.  
For example:  
Battle 1: 2 turns  
Battle 2: 4 turns  
Battle 3: 4 turns  
Battle 4: On the 5th turn, the guardian appears

Whether that’s the intended behavior or not is an open question.

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### Author: ![Risa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f6c823/32.png) [@Risa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Risa)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2026, 5:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-guild-war-defense-guardian-kicks-in-too-soon/89511/3 "2026-03-29T05:36:50Z")

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Not so in my last day. My first three battles all finished within 2 turns, yet still guardian pop up in turn 5 or 6.

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### Author: ![Risa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f6c823/32.png) [@Risa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Risa)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2026, 11:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-guild-war-defense-guardian-kicks-in-too-soon/89511/4 "2026-03-29T11:06:50Z")

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With more careful counting, I find end-of-battle bonus point for speed isn’t that reliable, either. Two of my today’s GW battles won at turn 3, yet I got +12 points in both.

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### Author: ![Jeto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeto/32/101682_2.png) [@Jeto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jeto)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2026, 11:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-guild-war-defense-guardian-kicks-in-too-soon/89511/5 "2026-03-29T23:57:01Z")

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If anyone happens to have a video of a battle, with this happening, before the event ends, that would be helpful.

So I can confirm it is the Guardian appearing and not just the opponent has that troop on their team, or confirm that while the guardian is in the team, there is a turn counter on their troop card.

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### Author: ![Namour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/namour/32/2957_2.png) [@Namour](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Namour)
#### Post date: [March 30, 2026, 1:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-guild-war-defense-guardian-kicks-in-too-soon/89511/6 "2026-03-30T01:29:28Z")

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No photo or video, but can confirm I saw the same thing occur on either day 3 or 4 and it occurred about 2 turns in, entangle gems appeared and my team was entangled.

My thoughts at the time was that the turn-counter was not reset each battle and instead, continued to count across either: a) all battles on a day; or b) all battles across the four days of guild wars.

It is not so obvious to know as goblin teams often keep looping so you don’t trigger many turns. I think a number of people video their GW battles, so hopefully someone has the info already.

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### Author: ![Jeto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeto/32/101682_2.png) [@Jeto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jeto)
#### Post date: [March 30, 2026, 1:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-guild-war-defense-guardian-kicks-in-too-soon/89511/7 "2026-03-30T01:32:59Z")

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In the meantime, the team is looking into this further and it’s been reported as a bug

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### Author: ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)
#### Post date: [March 30, 2026, 8:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/reported-guild-war-defense-guardian-kicks-in-too-soon/89511/8 "2026-03-30T08:47:39Z")

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I had the impression the sentinel shows up based on moves taken, not turns taken like it should. I think I even had it pop in once and interrupt while I was still chaining extra turns, not entirely sure though.
