# Replace Chrysantherax in PvP and Guild Wars **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [April 14, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533 "2025-04-14T21:08:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Voq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/voq/32/54089_2.png) [@Voq](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Voq)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/28 "2025-04-15T18:00:00Z")
Spell reduction only helps in PvP, not in GW. Anyway, if Stellarix is replaced then logically Chrysantherax should be too. I’m still of the opinion that it was a massive mistake to have replaced Stellarix in the first place. It was a bandaid fix for _other_ problems. There’s also speculation based on spoilers of a new GW system that’ll help combat looping, but it’s not here now. It seems like the perfect time to utilize their temporary bandaid fix of replacing troops. What harm is a few months for Chrys? Stellarix has been replaced for 296 days (almost 10 months) now. ---
**Author:** ![GANNICUS1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gannicus1/32/70687_2.png) [@GANNICUS1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GANNICUS1)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 6:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/29 "2025-04-15T18:34:46Z")
if gow dont stop the floral boss dragon Chrysantherax in pvp and gw in the defense teams then you might as well bring back stellarix and the wand of stars, all 3 of these troops/weapon is far too strong for both events in defense and offence in gw even endgamers plus low levels are finding that Chrysantherax is too much a beast and most players right now dont have this boss. gow make it very difficult to get chrysantherex unless you are extremely lucky to get all 6 floral dragons with out get numerous duplicates. Gow dont even give players a chance to buy this troop for real cash. so that being said, devs need to remove chrysantherax from all pvp defense and in gw defense and offence like stellarix and wand of stars ---
**Author:** ![Kelana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kelana/32/88601_2.png) [@Kelana](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kelana)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 7:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/30 "2025-04-15T19:01:36Z")
> [@Beg](#): > > I have played since dragonite was introduced, not sure how you have so much of it I’m not the person you were talking to but I have an alt that I’ve had for just about a year. I haven’t spent one penny on that account. And it’s maybe a week or two away from being done with all 3 sets of dragons. I get the dragonite every day from the dungeon offers. It does require some rather OCD collecting of tributes, but it’s doable. ETA: Oh, and also doing PVP for the marks ---
**Author:** ![Graeme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@Graeme](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Graeme)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 8:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/31 "2025-04-15T20:58:02Z")
Doesn’t make any sense why Stellarix is replaced in PvP/GW but Chrysantherax is not. Maybe devs will realise this eventually but it seems there are only a handful of them running this game now 😐 ---
**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/32 "2025-04-15T22:20:39Z")
> [@Redcap](#): > > Chrysantherax does over 300 damage to all in PvP. Far more than Stellarix. Diamantina: 6 + 2x Stellarix: 6 + 3x Chrys: 6 + 3.25x _(presumed)_ I don’t actually have Chrys to confirm its damage output, but it really does _not_ appear significantly higher than Stella’s (who, by contrast, _was_ significantly stronger than Diamantina). ---
**Author:** ![NerdieBirdie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nerdiebirdie/32/103793_2.png) [@NerdieBirdie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NerdieBirdie)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 12:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/33 "2025-04-16T00:13:05Z")
> [@Stratelier](#): > > Diamantina: 6 + 2x > Stellarix: 6 + 3x > Chrys: 6 + 3.25x _(presumed)_ > > I don’t actually have Chrys to confirm its damage output, but it really does _not_ appear significantly higher than Stella’s (who, by contrast, _was_ significantly stronger than Diamantina). For reference, these numbers are correct ---
**Author:** ![CHIEFSFAN27](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e68b1a/32.png) [@CHIEFSFAN27](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CHIEFSFAN27)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 9:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/35 "2025-04-16T09:20:41Z")
It’s nowhere as near as strong in GW’S and the mononliths actually worked last GW’S apparently, only 1 shots in frenzy zones and don’t have the looping ability Stellarix has ---
**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 9:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/36 "2025-04-16T09:32:22Z")
It has looping potential ---
**Author:** ![Theoden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/50afbb/32.png) [@Theoden](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Theoden)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 10:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/37 "2025-04-16T10:04:54Z")
> [@Redcap](#): > > Chrysantherax doesn’t need to loop. It’s one-shot kill. Sorry, was speaking from my own experience. It doesn’t one-shot me even in frenzy. Its lower spell damage resistance and lesser looping ability makes it easier for me to stop it casting again than Stellarix. I tend to die more often to Diamantina than Chrys, due to unlucky skull cascades from Diamantina’s bonestorm. ---
**Author:** ![Voq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/voq/32/54089_2.png) [@Voq](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Voq)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 5:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/38 "2025-04-16T17:16:31Z")
The monoliths indeed did work but [it was confirmed to be a bug.](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/balancing-changes/87074/7) ---
**Author:** ![Stroganrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@Stroganrog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stroganrog)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 6:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/39 "2025-04-22T06:52:11Z")
A reminder of request to replace Chrysantherax in PvP and Guild Wars. ---
**Author:** ![CHIEFSFAN27](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e68b1a/32.png) [@CHIEFSFAN27](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CHIEFSFAN27)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 7:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/40 "2025-04-22T07:55:59Z")
Let’s just remove all mythics and legendary troops while we are at 🤣 Clearly looking at PvP leaderboards Chrysanthetax is completely unbeatable 🤯 ---
**Author:** ![Stroganrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@Stroganrog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stroganrog)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 8:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/41 "2025-04-22T08:53:36Z")
Firstly, there is a difference between replace and remove meanings. The second thing: this thread is addressed for @devs attention, not for chit chats. The third thing: regarding your suggestion to remove all mythic and legendary troops, please open the new topic. ---
**Author:** ![CHIEFSFAN27](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e68b1a/32.png) [@CHIEFSFAN27](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CHIEFSFAN27)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 9:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/42 "2025-04-22T09:17:48Z")
Well to replace you have to remove it from defense first or am l wrong? 🤣 Open forum topic for discussion not a dev specific or you couldn’t reply in the topic yourself ---
**Author:** ![Quincy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ea666f/32.png) [@Quincy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Quincy)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 5:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/43 "2025-04-23T05:13:28Z")
I don’t agree with replacing. Stellarix and Wand of Stars had strong looping potential and that’s why they had to be replaced. Just make a better counter team… ---
**Author:** ![MIXAH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mixah/32/76447_2.png) [@MIXAH](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MIXAH)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/44 "2025-04-23T18:39:31Z")
Honestly, on blood frenzy areas, Chrysantherax is a monster. I saw one with upwards of “Deal 400+ damage” and despite having a lot of maxed out kingdoms, I cannot survive that. The current campaign with submerge gems really helps with this, but for those that are really complaining: - Look for troops that can silence or web - Change your hero’s trait to deluge instead of rock solid if you’re using Elementalist, but generally look for deluge. With those two things, you should be fine enough to kill it. I still think Takshaka is more of a problem to fight against than this (same with Stellarix previously). I do however, agree with the decision to rerplace Wand of Stars. I really wish that weapon would just be deleted, actually. I remember in the past, there was weapon variety, whether it be doomskull creators, EoE, Rope Dart, LnD, TnT, Reflection, and Explode/Summon weapons like Arboreal Crystal. Now, most of those are completely invalid with Wand of Stars. It’s basically become a catch-all weapon for both color and troop type restrictions. ---
**Author:** ![Darkborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkborne/32/95796_2.png) [@Darkborne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkborne)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 10:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/45 "2025-04-23T22:44:17Z")
I agree that Crysantherax is easier to deal with than Stellarix. However, it loops and gets extra turns in a bonestorm, so I have seen people using Diamantina with it to take advantage of this. But Wand of Stars is a whole separate issue. It’s almost required to deal with elementalist because it’s the easiest way to deal with that overpowered 3rd trait which makes most other classes feel at a disadvantage. I would love to see the day when Warden gets “create a leaf storm at the start of every turn,” instead of "all allies gain 5 armor."🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Voq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/voq/32/54089_2.png) [@Voq](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Voq)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 3:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/46 "2025-04-24T15:36:34Z")
> [@Quincy](#): > > I don’t agree with replacing. Stellarix and Wand of Stars had strong looping potential and that’s why they had to be replaced. Just make a better counter team… People made the exact same counterargument about nerfing/replacing Stellarix last year: it could be countered and they gave examples. WoS is different matter as others already mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533/47 "2025-04-25T18:36:55Z")
I feel like this troop still existing on pvp defenses is more an indication that the staff of GoW have given up. If layoffs have happened with their support staff, no reason to think programmers haven’t also been laid off. Therefore the constant skeleton crew is more worried about the game actually running than anyone actually enjoying PVP. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/replace-chrysantherax-in-pvp-and-guild-wars/87533.md?page=1)