# Regarding Callout Topics **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [July 25, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274 "2016-07-25T14:28:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/1 "2016-07-25T14:28:47Z")
Hi Everyone, I’ve seen a few “call out topics” appearing, calling out people for cheating/hacking/botting/etc…, and I’ve removed them from the forums. No call out threads please, folks! (and yes it’s _still_ a callout thread if you don’t name a person/guild specifically, but still supply a screenshot showing some names with the obvious _implication_ that they are the cheaters) If you have a well-founded suspicion that shenanigans are taking place, please either PM myself or Nimhain on the forums, or drop a line to support, and we’ll investigate. We may be obliged to give you a “thanks, we’ll look into it” kind of reply, but rest assured it’s not a brush-off, and we _are_ investigating. You’ll be pleased to know that we banned over a dozen treasure-map botters on the weekend with some new bot-detection code, and we continue to try and improve that for PvP as well. ---
**Author:** ![sethrogensbackhair](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sethrogensbackhair/32/563_2.png) [@sethrogensbackhair](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sethrogensbackhair)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/2 "2016-07-25T14:35:55Z")
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**Author:** ![ManaSurge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/manasurge/32/10808_2.png) [@ManaSurge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ManaSurge)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/3 "2016-07-25T14:36:20Z")
So we are really have cheaters,thank you for the information.i hope you can strenghten the security,so no one will left unpunished. ---
**Author:** ![illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@illusion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/illusion)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/4 "2016-07-25T14:40:37Z")
Please can you shave your back hair already ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 2:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/5 "2016-07-25T14:48:50Z")
> [@Sirrian](#): > > a dozen treasure-map botters Of all the things to bot… lol. I guess it was pretty easy to cycle through it over and over again though since there is never any variance in the treasure maps that would stop a bot. ---
**Author:** ![baller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f05b48/32.png) [@baller](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/baller)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 2:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/6 "2016-07-25T14:57:03Z")
If anything, they’re THE thing to bot. Nobody (excluding devs I guess 😂) will investigate the guy doing treasure maps, unlike in pvp where you can raise suspicions if you rise too fast on the leaderboards. They also give gems and traistones faster than any other mode as long as you’re not farming a specific color. ---
**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 2:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/7 "2016-07-25T14:57:34Z")
Actually, these guys were using a far more advanced method to hack, involving intercepting messages as they were being passed to the server to artificially inflate their winnings. ---
**Author:** ![STC\_Oxygen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@STC\_Oxygen](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/STC_Oxygen)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 3:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/8 "2016-07-25T15:04:24Z")
That seems pretty advanced. Would pay to see those codes. Hell! lol ---
**Author:** ![Spherix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/spherix/32/2388_2.png) [@Spherix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Spherix)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/9 "2016-07-25T15:39:16Z")
> [@Sirrian](#): > > We are obliged to give you a “thanks, we’ll look into it” reply That’s nice… but did you possibly mean to say “aren’t”, rather than “are”? ---
**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/10 "2016-07-25T15:44:26Z")
Hey @Spherix, hopefully I’m not missing a joke/sarcasm in your response and sounding a bit silly, but: 1. We ARE obliged to do that. Giving out any more information than a simple acknowledgement, or discussing the allegations in any way, is against our policy. 2. We ALWAYS try to reply to our PMs, just to let you know they were received. ---
**Author:** ![LostInLust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lostinlust/32/19371_2.png) [@LostInLust](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LostInLust)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/11 "2016-07-25T16:35:07Z")
You are banning their accounts? Or IP’s, PC’s also? What about clickers or botting programs like #######? Can they be detected also? ---
**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/12 "2016-07-25T16:41:21Z")
We ban accounts. It’s easy to switch IPs, so that’s a little more difficult to ban. We have good methods of detection for a number of different types of bots… we’ve had experience with bots going back to our RTS days 20 years ago, so we have lots of tricks up our sleeves to detect things if we’re motivated to do so. ---
**Author:** ![sethrogensbackhair](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sethrogensbackhair/32/563_2.png) [@sethrogensbackhair](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sethrogensbackhair)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/13 "2016-07-25T16:46:25Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/1/10d11bdc5d2388e83c86a58e461160b9478f6d22.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![LostInLust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lostinlust/32/19371_2.png) [@LostInLust](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LostInLust)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/14 "2016-07-25T16:55:24Z")
Are these permanent bans? Or there is for example a possibility to buy a second chance? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/15 "2016-07-25T16:56:05Z")
Our bans for hacking are permanent. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/16 "2016-07-25T16:58:22Z")
> [@Sirrian](#): > > You’ll be pleased to know that we banned over a dozen treasure-map botters on the weekend with some new bot-detection code, and we continue to try and improve that for PvP as well. I would never have guessed by why maps? I get the idea that it can get you a lot of different resources but still maps? Also this raises the question do the devs use bots for testing? ---
**Author:** ![Spherix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/spherix/32/2388_2.png) [@Spherix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Spherix)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/17 "2016-07-25T17:22:45Z")
It was just a weird sentence, so I was confused. “ **but** rest assured we are investigating” implies that the second clause is in contradiction to the first. It would more naturally follow after something like “Even if we don’t respond”, so I had to read it again and try to make sense of it. Is the thought more like “Even if our response seems obligatory, please believe that we are really investigating”? ---
**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/18 "2016-07-25T17:24:00Z")
Haha - you’re quite correct… that’s what typing things out in a hurry does to me! ---
**Author:** ![captain\_video](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@captain\_video](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/captain_video)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/19 "2016-07-25T19:09:00Z")
Botting maps gets you keys, and keys get you, well… everything! ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274/20 "2016-07-25T23:36:02Z")
Thread is about callouts and not to do them and i think the worst thing about this is the news of the map bots, that is actually humourous. I just wondered something though, are they botting to get maps or to use maps. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/regarding-callout-topics/10274.md?page=2)