# Refund at cost of gems

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/refund-at-cost-of-gems/15082>\
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\
**Created:** [November 9, 2016, 10:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/refund-at-cost-of-gems/15082 "2016-11-09T10:21:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![erthule](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/erthule/32/24124_2.png) [@erthule](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/erthule)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/refund-at-cost-of-gems/15082/1 "2016-11-09T10:21:05Z")

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Allow the refund of a troop at cost of gems.  
You can decide the limits and costs.  
Only one troop per day?  
The cost in proportion to the rarity?  
Not much to say, who would not be able to do?  
Please, everyone makes mistakes. Allow him to correct them.

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**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/refund-at-cost-of-gems/15082/2 "2016-11-09T15:03:37Z")

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They offer refunds whenever a troop gets nerfed or rebalanced for free.

The reason they don’t always allow refunds is so people don’t just keep switching the same 30,000 souls between different teams of 4 troops.

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**Author:** ![Horse\_Cosby](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/horse_cosby/32/8303_2.png) [@Horse\_Cosby](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Horse_Cosby)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/refund-at-cost-of-gems/15082/3 "2016-11-09T15:30:57Z")

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How would you feel about getting traitstones refunded at a cost? Maybe we lose all souls invested + pay more souls for the reversal? Would have the added benefit as another little perk to VIP as higher tiers would lose less character levels.

I’d even be okay with losing my minor/majors in the process as I’d also like to discourage fickle use of the feature.

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**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/refund-at-cost-of-gems/15082/4 "2016-11-09T15:49:05Z")

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Nah, not likely to happen.

Needless work for the devs.

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/refund-at-cost-of-gems/15082/5 "2016-11-09T17:03:36Z")

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> [@Tacet](#):
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> The reason they don’t always allow refunds is so people don’t just keep switching the same 30,000 souls between different teams of 4 troops.

My initial feeling was “no way”, but after having given it some thought, just why not? You can already spend gems to reroll PvP and to switch your hero class, what’s so bad about being able to spend gems to reallocate the souls/traits of a single troop? Personally, I prefer long term benefits, so my gems go towards gem/event keys. But if it makes some players happy to micro manage some of their troops instead, why not just let them?

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**Author:** ![erthule](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/erthule/32/24124_2.png) [@erthule](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/erthule)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/refund-at-cost-of-gems/15082/6 "2016-11-09T17:06:35Z")

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If can only do one per day, it would prevent the switch of four troops and however the cost in gems makes the operation not cheap.

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**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/refund-at-cost-of-gems/15082/7 "2016-11-09T19:35:03Z")

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> [@Tacet](#):
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> The reason they don’t always allow refunds is so people don’t just keep switching the same 30,000 souls between different teams of 4 troops.

If this really is the main issue with offering refunds, I don’t see why. Gems are much harder to obtain than souls. Traitstones, on the other hand, while easy to obtain, at least take a prohibitively long amount of time to farm for some people. I can see _that_ being the reason they wouldn’t offer a gem respec, because there are plenty of old garbage troops that we could easily remove traitstones from without impacting stars too much. Even that, though, given an appropriate respec cost of like 50 gems would prevent abuse from most people, with the ones _able_ to just rotate traitstones onto the newer troops being the ones already having more than enough anyways.

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**Author:** ![kzintiwife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kzintiwife/32/2350_2.png) [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/refund-at-cost-of-gems/15082/8 "2016-11-09T19:40:55Z")

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check out this necro thread

> [@Universal refund & individual refund tokens](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631):
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> I would love if there was a purchaseable item, around 5-10$ that would reset all your spent souls and traitstones. I know I didn’t go exactly the way path I wanted while leveling, and especially before gold leveled up your cities and it was leveling troops that got your cities levels. I would love to be able to reset my allocations. And would pay money for it. Additionally I would love to have individual refund tokens available for individual troops for a modest gem fee. Although I understand …
