# Quit sabotaging a game we love **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [September 26, 2022, 12:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083 "2022-09-26T12:01:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![holyporko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/holyporko/32/75733_2.png) [@holyporko](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/holyporko)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 11:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/21 "2022-10-01T11:37:58Z")
> **[Gems of War - Steam Charts](https://steamcharts.com/app/329110#1y)** > > An ongoing analysis of Steam's player numbers, seeing what's been played the most. ---
**Author:** ![CaptainAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/captainawesome/32/74890_2.png) [@CaptainAwesome](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CaptainAwesome)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 11:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/22 "2022-10-01T11:44:11Z")
@all FYI: September 22 has the lowest peak since December 19 ---
**Author:** ![ANGI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@ANGI](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ANGI)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 12:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/23 "2022-10-01T12:11:00Z")
sure, no one was playing, everyone is here on forum now šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 12:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/24 "2022-10-01T12:43:46Z")
> [@CaptainAwesome](#): > > all FYI: September 22 has the lowest peak since December 19 Traditionally September is one of the most active times a year. So perhaps the degrading numbers this year is a clear reflection of the current state of play in Gems of War. Salty said a while ago that if they saw the daily player rate drop they would adjust accordingly. Salty ended up leaving the company so perhaps she meant she would personally adjust direction. ---
**Author:** ![Helvellyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Helvellyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Helvellyn)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/25 "2022-10-01T13:58:11Z")
Ive gone from 2000T a week to about 500T a week in just 2 weeks. My playtime will only decrease further. There hasnā€™t been any fun aspect of playing this game in far too long. ---
**Author:** ![Rockwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@Rockwell](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rockwell)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/26 "2022-10-01T18:46:02Z")
> [@Eika](#): > > It was just a question, no need to take it so very personal. Then donā€™t phrase it in a way that sounds exactly like that. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/27 "2022-10-01T19:37:06Z")
![Screenshot_20221001-213515-243](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/f/af1614f0a9c434f445406e319726a04853f03c31.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Rockwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@Rockwell](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rockwell)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 9:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/28 "2022-10-01T21:27:51Z")
Ah, I am defeated by your devasting jpg counter argument šŸ™„ ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/29 "2022-10-01T22:02:02Z")
Donā€™t be too harsh on yourself Goodwill. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Angels](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/angels/32/57909_2.png) [@Angels](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Angels)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 9:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/30 "2022-10-05T09:05:46Z")
The game has been relegated to student devs that have just discovered the power of random number generators. But as far as forum going players that understand the game inside and out, we or you or us or whatever, we are not the target audience for this game. The target audience will be accounts between something like 7 or 14 days old to 21 or 28 days old. I was involved with a free to play game a while back and the majority of its income (76%) came from accounts that were 30 to 60 days old. That was PC, not mobile. Mobile will be less than that, they are a more transient player base. So good luck in getting a studio that is no longer independent to listen to what you say. ---
**Author:** ![Xtowers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xtowers/32/6476_2.png) [@Xtowers](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Xtowers)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/31 "2022-10-05T17:09:32Z")
This was the first event in my memory that my top 20 guild was unable to finish an event through to the last stage. ---
**Author:** ![icy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/icy/32/71999_2.png) [@icy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/icy)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/32 "2022-10-05T19:13:06Z")
wasnā€™t particularly hard matches to play though. so if your ā€œtop20 guildā€ (which measurement is this btw? ^^) didnā€™t finish reward12 ā†’ **congrats**. **because** ā†’ this means your members most likely werenā€™t gullible enough to spend more gems than absolutely neccessary on additional shop tiers for (most likely) next to worthless world event reward12. your guild did well! ---
**Author:** ![sylverscale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@sylverscale](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sylverscale)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 10:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/33 "2022-10-05T22:39:33Z")
We decided not to, for exactly the reasons posted above me. Why spend too much on a next to worthless reward? If youā€™re top 20 in whatever measurement, your certainly donā€™t need one major orb. It was too expensive, I agree, but good that you didnā€™t spend. ---
**Author:** ![Helvellyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Helvellyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Helvellyn)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 10:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/34 "2022-10-05T22:59:46Z")
yes but what point is there reward wise in completing anythung? ---
**Author:** ![Xtowers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xtowers/32/6476_2.png) [@Xtowers](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Xtowers)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 11:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/35 "2022-10-05T23:38:40Z")
Yep and thatā€™s totally fine. Thereā€™s a point when the cost-benefit ratio are out of sync and it seems like we, a very active guild, decided we reached it during this particular event. It isnā€™t a surprise that it is in conjunction with a tier 4 required purchase per member to complete it, and also dragon eggsā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Xtowers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xtowers/32/6476_2.png) [@Xtowers](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Xtowers)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/36 "2022-10-05T23:42:35Z")
ā€œTop20ā€ just referring to trophies earned as a guild, and I suppose guild wars. Just indicating we are very invested and active and not even we finished it. ---
**Author:** ![icy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/icy/32/71999_2.png) [@icy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/icy)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/37 "2022-10-06T00:30:57Z")
> [@Helvellyn](#): > > yes but what point is there reward wise in completing anythung? up for any single player or guild to decide. early reward stages are basically ā€œfree grabsā€ and hand out a few gems. on a ā€œnormal weekā€ without shop tiers on steroids youā€™ll need around shop tier1 x30 to complete the whole world event as a group while making the matches qck&ez. a group of 30 players often doesnā€™t feature everyone on the same ā€œlevelā€, so, for some all the rewards arenā€™t worth it, others ā€œwant themā€ just ā€œbecauseā€ and another player nearly never has time to play vault event due to constant weekend shifts and appreciates some more chances on lucky pulls of blue bubbles. not that much to do for it, so, why not. overall all of us kill (life)time with this game because we enjoy (at least parts of) it, or you can also otherwise say ā€œbecause we donā€™t have anything better to doā€ (in that moment) due to whichever limitations we have or set for ourselves. > [@Xtowers](#): > > ā€œTop20ā€ just referring to trophies earned as a guild, and I suppose guild wars. Just indicating we are very invested and active and not even we finished it. trophies or guild wars means absolutely zero on that matter. Iā€™m part of a ā€œtop80ā€ guild by that variables and personally wasnā€™t keen on finishing the event due to the shop tier cost and our group of just 29 players did it anyway without too much trouble. letā€™s see how future events go, if the higher cost weeks get more frequent. no shame in not finishing reward12, because as stated - who cares (for such slim rewards). ---
**Author:** ![foxdvd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/0ea827/32.png) [@foxdvd](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/foxdvd)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 1:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/38 "2022-10-06T01:03:33Z")
I love my guildā€¦but if I have to spend 400 to 600 gems to get that final 10000 gold and major orbā€¦that is not a good trade for me. Orbs do nothing for me. I donā€™t care if it is a guaranteed orb of powerā€¦spending an extra 250 gems for an orb of power does nothing for meā€¦orbs are worthless at this pointā€¦zero value. This last year more and more top guilds have went to guild war optionalā€¦the way the game is now trying to eat up gemsā€¦I now think a guild that is a tier 2 buy in for all but tower of doom makes more sense ---
**Author:** ![Xtowers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xtowers/32/6476_2.png) [@Xtowers](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Xtowers)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 1:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/39 "2022-10-06T01:45:59Z")
Well, you seem to be getting really hung up on how i define ā€œTop20ā€. By whatever measure you want to use, the point I was trying to make is that my guild is very experienced and very active and this is the first time we have ever not finished all stages of an event to my knowledge. It could be everyone was just spending all their gems on Dragon Eggs, or it could be that the price to get all stages done in the event is now becoming increasingly more difficult to justify. Itā€™s actually probably the former as i think about it, but it still doesnā€™t take away from the point that getting all stages is less valuable overall, or just too costly. ---
**Author:** ![icy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/icy/32/71999_2.png) [@icy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/icy)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 8:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083/40 "2022-10-06T08:12:57Z")
No hate. šŸ™‚ Really better to not have finished, as I said above. Just found it funny to bring the ā€œtop20 guildā€ stuff up in the first place since it had no validity on the matter. After all the event was just about buying in for more sigils to play for overall points to finish or just settle for reward11. I personally see every guild event as exactly that. Everyone of the guild should bring the same effort and face the same costs. For me personally the rewards you get back in terms of gems always justify to buy shop tier1 which makes your time spent during the matches faster and the matches more comfortable. Another odd thing: We experience such a high(er) shop tier buy in (at least) once every campaign for a world event week. Only due to the recent dev-actions thereā€™s such a big discussion about it. But still rightfully so, imo. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/quit-sabotaging-a-game-we-love/77083.md?page=3)