# Question about the AI **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PlayStation 4/Xbox One)\ **Created:** [July 16, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673 "2016-07-16T01:05:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/1 "2016-07-16T01:05:09Z")
We’ve all seen the posts by the developers on the AI script. What I’m wondering is, where is it in the script where AI “gives up”? If the AI has a Troop that is one Skull match from death, it will usually (not always) ignore it. Also, the AI will essentially “give up” when faced with insurmountable odds (like 4v1) and will literally set up matches for the player, even Skulls (while simultaneously avoiding “favourable” moves). ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 1:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/2 "2016-07-16T01:08:18Z")
That sounds Console-specific. I’ve never seen the PC/mobile AI “give up.” It shuffles on, doing its thing, until it goes “splat.” Algorithmically speaking, programming the AI to “give up” actually would require more effort than not doing so. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/3 "2016-07-16T01:18:02Z")
FRom experience i can say on pc early game the ai gives up quite a bit in no-win situations but after level 100 it stops doing that and you end up in slobber knockers. ---
**Author:** ![Personette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/personette/32/3845_2.png) [@Personette](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Personette)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/4 "2016-07-16T01:18:59Z")
This is magical thinking. Tada. Question answered. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/5 "2016-07-16T01:58:42Z")
Give me an hour and I’ll paste this topic full of examples. Aren’t you people tired of being proven wrong on a daily basis? I’m sure as hell tired of doing it, but if you want to masochists… ---
**Author:** ![Smuggler007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/smuggler007/32/5320_2.png) [@Smuggler007](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smuggler007)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/6 "2016-07-16T01:59:59Z")
I’ve seen the computer player give up countless times on XB1. No need to prove otherwise @TaliaParks . ---
**Author:** ![irishfury187](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/irishfury187/32/7652_2.png) [@irishfury187](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/irishfury187)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/7 "2016-07-16T02:15:20Z")
I’ve also seen the Ai appear to give up. Also as I get closer to winning it seems like gems start falling more favorably for me. ---
**Author:** ![Personette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/personette/32/3845_2.png) [@Personette](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Personette)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/8 "2016-07-16T02:16:48Z")
> [@TaliaParks](#): > > Give me an hour and I’ll paste this topic full of examples. Go ahead. You could go on for days. Still wouldn’t prove anything. Because, pretty much by definition, you won’t be posting the examples that you forgot. Recall bias is pretty powerful. We all tend to remember the evidence that supports our beliefs and ignore or discard evidence to the contrary. This is in addition to the fact that, in general, once we have a fixed belief any additional information will be interpreted as confirmation–even if we have to tie ourselves up in knots to make it work. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/9 "2016-07-16T02:28:50Z")
You even a Console player @Personette? ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/10 "2016-07-16T02:31:43Z")
The game doesn’t have AI. It semi-randomly picks from the various legal moves, with a slight lean towards matching skulls or four gems. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 2:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/11 "2016-07-16T02:46:56Z")
> [@UKresistance](#): > > with a slight lean towards matching skulls or four gems …that’s an AI. It may not be particularly “intelligent,” but that’s not a requirement for the definition. ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 2:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/12 "2016-07-16T02:53:02Z")
Actually it is part of the definition of AI. There is no “learning” involved. Nor is there any look ahead for potential future moves. And that’s a good thing because even a rudimentary AI in this game would make it nightmarishly difficult. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 2:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/13 "2016-07-16T02:55:14Z")
That’s splitting hairs. There’s no requirement for machine learning to qualify as AI in games. There’s no requirement for lookahead. There’s really no requirement other than to simulate player behavior, which this AI does…poorly. I do agree that if the AI were smarter, people would just bitch more, though. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/14 "2016-07-16T03:00:09Z")
> [@TaliaParks](#): > > Give me an hour and I’ll paste this topic full of examples. Actually, I _am_ curious. I believe you, in fact, but since I don’t own a console I haven’t seen the behavior and I really would like to compare what the AI on Console is doing vs. PC/mobile. ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/15 "2016-07-16T03:11:40Z")
Ignore Talia. He accused the devs of manipulating the “AI” to be out to get him since he has been complaining lately. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 3:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/16 "2016-07-16T03:43:21Z")
Here you go @Lyya [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/4/a471e00492712770ed0712e3ac24de0636cc6666.jpeg "AI quits 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWWwxfhOOyU) ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 3:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/17 "2016-07-16T03:43:44Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/2/326cb65633a946ab790f11487b05e6b71a8405e3.jpeg "AI quits 2") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X0qYYrxpK4) ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 3:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/18 "2016-07-16T03:44:04Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/e/8e6a7f31a95bda8cacbaa75fcdda4a9bc97d5e2a.jpeg "AI quits 3") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybGGJWMqrKM) ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 3:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/19 "2016-07-16T03:44:32Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/b/5b2df3faad4f0dc2da9c63e28b5825439639c27a.jpeg "AI quits 4") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ_Tv89QgVM) ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 3:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673/20 "2016-07-16T03:47:04Z")
That was a series of 6 matches, so it happens quite often. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-the-ai/9673.md?page=2)