# Question about ogryn

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-ogryn/36161>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\
**Created:** [February 23, 2018, 5:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-ogryn/36161 "2018-02-23T05:57:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Lando](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ccd318/32.png) [@Lando](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lando)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 5:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-ogryn/36161/1 "2018-02-23T05:57:35Z")

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Has Ogryn traits always costed so much to upgrade? 60 runic fire and 30 arcane rage seems steep and doing a quick look I haven’t seen any others with a similar cost. I’m not complaining just curious.

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**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 5:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-ogryn/36161/3 "2018-02-23T05:58:11Z")

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Yup, the guild guardian and guild wars troops have a higher traiting cost than other commons. Check Justice and co for other examples.

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**Author:** ![Lando](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ccd318/32.png) [@Lando](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lando)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 6:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/question-about-ogryn/36161/4 "2018-02-23T06:00:01Z")

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Ok thanks!